[ale] Debian fork thoughts?

leam hall leamhall at gmail.com
Mon Dec 1 13:44:00 EST 2014


Jeremy and Solomon,

As a non-Debian person I appreciate your insights. I really would like
a cleaner OS but systemd is not my cup of tea.

Thanks!

Leam


On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Jeremy T. Bouse
<jeremy.bouse at undergrid.net> wrote:
> Brief disclaimer beforehand... I'm a Debian Developer and have been part of
> the project since 2001.
>
> Now, that said, I'm not giving this "fork" any of my time based solely on
> the behavior of the anti-systemd individuals that have, and still, caused
> disruptions on the mailing lists, irc chat rooms and an other medium they
> could. They have tried repeated to work against the established methods to
> do things and when they couldn't pigeon-hole and force the results they
> wanted caused even more problems. Finally they have decided to fork the
> project which as someone else already pointed out is going to be a
> derivative that is almost 99% original to upstream just simply stripping out
> the entire systemd system which already can be removed and use SysV init
> with a shim for systemd that allows those aspects that have hard-coded
> dependencies on systemd (namely GNOME comes to mind as the biggest reason
> requiring systemd).
>
> If they could have found a better way to argue their point I might give what
> they have to say some bearing but they have been unable to do so and I
> highly doubt they ever will. I expect this forked derivative to be very
> volatile and as an IT professional wouldn't use it for anything more than a
> throw away virtual machine if I did look at it.
>
> On 01.12.2014 12:23, leam hall wrote:
>>
>> You've probably seen the news that Debian has forked. I'm interested
>> in a much smaller OS that works. Would love to hear your perspectives
>> on this. It seems like a Good Thing (tm).
>>
>> Leam
>
>
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