[ale] Assembly Language?

leam hall leamhall at gmail.com
Thu Oct 24 10:15:45 EDT 2013


Hey Ron,

I picked up a book on Assembler but probably won't get to it for a while.
If you'd like to borrow it, and I'll send it your way.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1478119209/ref=oh_details_o02_s01_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Leam


On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Charles Shapiro <hooterpincher at gmail.com>wrote:

> I also haven't done assembly language programming for a really long time.
> It is very fun to get into the guts of the machine though, and a background
> in assembly language will make you a Better Person and a Better Coder.  For
> intellectual curiosity, you might also check out Menuet (
> http://www.menuetos.net/ ), which I have actually gotten to boot on some
> of my machines.
>
> If you're interested in low-level languages, Forth is worth a look as
> well. The assembly-language kernel of a Forth interpreter is relatively
> simple, and most of the development environment is written in the language
> itself. That means that Forth is often one of the very first languages
> available on a new chip. The classic text is Leo Brodie's _Starting_Forth_,
> now sadly out of print but available on-line (
> http://www.forth.com/starting-forth/ ). I really enjoyed hacking on
> Forth, although I never found commercial application for it and didn't get
> as far as writing anything in it beyond the exercises.
>
> -- CHS
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 8:44 PM, Ed Cashin <ecashin at noserose.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> A long time ago I learned assembly for 32-bit x86 using Dr. Paul Carter's
>> PDF.
>>
>>   http://www.drpaulcarter.com/pcasm/
>>
>> At least, that's my best guess.  I know I learned some, and I know I
>> liked nasm as opposed to gas.  Many people feel that nasm is human
>> friendly, while gas is gcc friendly.
>>
>> Once you get used to nasm, it's pretty easy to learn the gcc extended
>> inline assembly stuff.  I have created a mnemonic device that I find
>> amusing for remembering which way the source and destination operands are
>> placed in AT&T (gas) and Intel (nasm) assembly syntax:
>>
>>   If you're going to AT&T, your destination is New Jersey, on the right.
>>   If you're going to Intel, your destination is California, on the left.
>>
>> Recently I got bothered that I couldn't do asm on x86_64, so I tried some
>> stuff and learned about some of the fancy recent Intel features at the same
>> time.  My learning exercises are documented on github.  The AVX stuff is
>> unfinished, since none of the CPUs I have access to have that feature.  The
>> other stuff is believed to work on Mac OS X and Linux.
>>
>>   https://github.com/ecashin/low/tree/master/x86_64/popcnt
>>
>> --
>>   Ed
>>
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