[ale] Ubuntu Desktop 13.10

Jim Kinney jim.kinney at gmail.com
Sun Oct 20 22:37:12 EDT 2013


I'm surprised that doesn't work. Rpm distros recognize a config change and
create the new config file as foo.cfg.rpmnew.
Maybe there's a flag to add on upgrade to preserve all edited configs. Not
sure. Bombed the Debian section of LPI :-(
On Oct 20, 2013 6:40 PM, "Wolf Halton" <wolf.halton at gmail.com> wrote:

> I updated Thursday night to Ubuntu to 13.10 with no problems on my
> 6-yr-old HP laptop, mostly while I was at Melton's.  It was not quite a
> lights-out install. I had to approve keeping my edited config files for 2
> services.  I wish the install script would just keep edited configs and
> roll on.
>
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> On Oct 19, 2013 9:37 AM, "Edward Holcroft" <eholcroft at mkainc.com> wrote:
>
>> Just upgraded my 3 home Ubuntu boxes to 13.10.
>>
>> Was a seamless upgrade on 2 machines (64 bit). On one 8 year-old notebook
>> that gets used heavily for Facebook etc every day (32 bit) everything froze
>> up half way through. It seemed like the CPU became overheated during
>> installation - was very hot to the touch. Could run a command line and top
>> did not reveal anything out of the ordinary like a CPU spike. I was unable
>> to get dpkg to release the sources.list file no matter what kills I tried,
>> so did a reboot followed by live-DVD repair. The repair option is pretty
>> impressive - found the broken 13.10 installation and fixed it while keeping
>> all data files intact as well as the Doze 7 on dual boot left unharmed.
>>
>> Seems to be a minor upgrade, I'm not seeing any real visual differences,
>> other than a bunch of new lenses, which I don't really use extensively. New
>> kernel of course, and latest versions of various apps. This leads me to
>> think about 14.04, which I would guess, would be another minor upgrade,
>> given that it's LTS. If that's the case, and I cannot see Canonical going
>> ott on an LTS release, it'd make for two fairly boring releases
>> consecutively, which is interesting given the recent releases that have
>> been bleeding edge to the point of being sub-functional if not broken in
>> some areas. I'm kinda pleased they focused on just getting things stable
>> rather than going with the threatened move to Mir at this point. I recently
>> switched my work desktop to Wheezy stable (bit of an overreaction I guess,
>> I could've dropped back to 12.04 or so, but I've always wanted to try a
>> Debian desktop) 'cos Unity was just breaking on me way too often. It'll be
>> really interesting/surprising if they bring Mir in for 14.04.
>>
>> On the 32 bit version, Chrome still seems to be broken. This issue from
>> 13.04 is still there:
>>
>>
>> http://askubuntu.com/questions/359530/google-chrome-update-wont-install-due-to-unmet-dependencies
>>
>> Although you can make it work if you try, it'd be nice to see a fixed
>> version released.
>>
>> Another issue that came up on one of my 64 bit boxes (although I don't
>> think it's a specifically 64 bit issue) is too little disk space on /boot,
>> so the upgrade failed until that was addressed. I had too many kernels in
>> there and had to delete the old ones. I used this handy script that I've
>> used many times on my Amazon Ubuntu servers:
>>
>> dpkg -l linux-* | awk '/^ii/{ print $2}' | grep -v -e `uname -r | cut
>> -f1,2 -d"-"` | grep -e [0-9] | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge
>>
>> from here:
>>
>>
>> http://tuxtweaks.com/2010/10/remove-old-kernels-in-ubuntu-with-one-command/
>>
>> I see this as an unacceptable error on a distro aimed at easy
>> installation, noob demographic. Most noobs I know would've run a mile at an
>> error like that. Of course, if this was fresh installation, I would not
>> have experienced this issue since there'd be no old kernels installed. But
>> why on earth would there be a limit (and apparently a relatively low one at
>> that) on /boot on a distro of this nature?
>>
>> Anyway, that's my quick first experience with 13.10 ... it works, a bit
>> of a yawn, frankly. Nothing that jumps out at me to say don't touch this.
>> Still a great distro for first timers, and even experienced users as long
>> as Unity can hold it together under high user demands.
>>
>> cheers
>> ed
>>
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