[ale] [ot] Was Monitoring

[Sean Kilpatrick]

The only fly in the ointment with this plan is new drug patents.  The 
approval procedure can take a lot longer than five years.  But the patent 
application has to be made before any testing can begin.  For drugs I 
would favor a time period that runs from the date of final approval by the 
FDA (here in the USA.)

Sean

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On Thursday, October 10, 2013 11:50:33 am Jim Kinney wrote:
> I vote for patents to be cut to 5 years with no chance of extension,
> copyrights to be lifetime of original human creator as long as they
> retain the full copyright. A copyright sold by the original human
> creator has a life of the lessor of 10 years or lifetime of the
> original creator with no extension possible. No non-human entity can
> can apply for a copyright or patent. a group of humans may own
> copyrights and the lifetime rule is the lesser of 10 years past the
> shortest lifetime of the group or the longest lifetime of the group.
> 
> Patents and copyrights held in foreign countries can't be defended in
> US courts unless US taxes are paid on the US income they generate
> (i.e. - US tech firm pays zillions to foreign shell company for
> "licensing" to lower US income for tax purposes. OK. But that patent
> is not protected in the US and can be treated is public domain
> material in the US. If you don't support the system, you don't get to
> use the system.).
> 
> Patents can only be for things that have physical mass. I would LOVE to
> see a new patent protection concept of "Patent for the Public Good"
> that has a lifetime protection of 50 years and works like GPLv3 - use
> it and make money from it and add innovations to the patent for all to
> use license free (with one caveat - for-profit entities using PPGs are
> required to put up money to defend the PPGs they use - sort-of license
> like and not well thought out yet.).
> 
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 9:42 AM, JD <jdp at algoloma.com> wrote:
> > On 10/09/2013 05:05 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:
> > > The tolkien family is a bit nutty. Shouldn't that book series be
> > > out of copyright by now?
> > 
> > What? Like Mickey Mouse and anything over 50 yrs old should? IMHO.
> > Copyright and
> > patents were never intended to last forever.
> > 
> > Except that our laws can be bought by non-voting entities.
> > 
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