[ale] Monitoring (Was "Todays trends")

[Chuck Payne]

I am surprise no one like openNMS you know we have a guy local here
that works on it.

On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Chris Ricker <chris.ricker at gmail.com> wrote:
> Xymon (previously hobbit) is the open source replacement / successor to Big
> Brother. http://xymon.sourceforge.net/
>
> It started out as a patch addon to speed up BB, back in the days when BB was
> not quite free software but did provide source code. After Quest closed the
> BB source (even for paid licensees such as yours truly who were running it
> on hardware they refused to provide binaries for --way to honor that
> license, Quest!) hobbit evolved into its own thing and most of the developer
> community around BB went with it. Then the Tolkien family came after it, so
> now it's Xymon....
>
>
> On 10/9/13 1:42 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:
>
> http://communities.quest.com/community/big-brother?view=overview#/?tagSet=1217
>
> Looks like BB is $0. It is certainly NOT open source. compiled binaries for
> many platforms.
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Big Brother's background color was a simple and brilliant way to show
>> overall health. Big Sister, the FLOSS BB rewrite, never managed to hit
>> critical mass but made it to a 1.0+ release in 2006. BB is still around
>> after being acquired by Quest (and now Dell has Quest it appears?) but is no
>> longer "free". It never was FLOSS.
>>
>>
>> Nagios configuration is convoluted. Don't like it. _REALLY_ want some
>> solid logic to add besides time and pester-me counts. If this AND this but
>> NOT this then flag once and don't page until this followed by this however
>> if this AND this AND this page NOW (yeah - good luck with that).
>>
>> I been a consumer of Zabbix and found it a better layout that nagios. An
>> install of zabbix is soon in my future.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Jerald Sheets <questy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 9, 2013, at 7:45 AM, "Lightner, Jeff" <JLightner at water.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > So the issue wasn't Nagios - it was the folks managing it.
>>> >
>>> > Nagios is a great tool and we use it in Production.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'll bite.  Nobody better to discuss with than the ALE family…
>>>
>>>
>>> So, I hate Nagios.  Can't express how much I dislike the product, the
>>> layout of the alerting, the lack of a comprehensive, easy to see and
>>> understand dashboard with easily managed/administered acknowledgements,
>>> mobile accessibility, automation, escalation paging… you name it.
>>>
>>> Now, before you freak out, I know it's all in there, but I personally
>>> find it markedly difficult to find all this stuff in the way Nagios has
>>> decided to lay everything out.
>>>
>>>
>>> Is this just a "me" thing?  Is it because my earliest and most often used
>>> monitoring stuff is from a "Big Brother" background?  (BB, Hobbit, Xymon,
>>> Foglight, Spotlight)
>>>
>>>
>>> What's the general landscape of monitoring tools and utilities in use out
>>> there?
>>>
>>>
>>> --Jerald
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> James P. Kinney III
>>
>> Every time you stop a school, you will have to build a jail. What you gain
>> at one end you lose at the other. It's like feeding a dog on his own tail.
>> It won't fatten the dog.
>> - Speech 11/23/1900 Mark Twain
>>
>> http://heretothereideas.blogspot.com/
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>
>
> --
> --
> James P. Kinney III
>
> Every time you stop a school, you will have to build a jail. What you gain
> at one end you lose at the other. It's like feeding a dog on his own tail.
> It won't fatten the dog.
> - Speech 11/23/1900 Mark Twain
>
> http://heretothereideas.blogspot.com/
>
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