[ale] switching to foxit for pdf viewing with or without adobe as backup

Scott Castaline skotchman at gmail.com
Fri Mar 22 15:34:27 EDT 2013 

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It would be Okular, as James pointed out, not Okra. My memory recall
had a Parity Error, or ECC error, I can't remember.:-)


On 03/22/2013 02:17 PM, Ron Frazier (ALE) wrote:
> Hi Scott,
> 
> I'm adding Okra? to my list of alternatives along with xpdf and
> okular, which someone mentioned previously.  Is it possible that
> okular is the one your were thinking of?
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Ron
> 
> 
> Scott Castaline <skotchman at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> If evince isn't sophisticated enough then there is always Okra(?
> not sure of name just that it starts with O and is a native KDE
> app). Down side is that if you're not using KDE or any KDE apps
> already it will install a boat load of KDE related files. When I
> was using it along with Mafia$haft Font$ (I'm ducking) I felt it
> blew off the door on ADOBE. For now Evince is good enough for me as
> a standalone and I do have FoxIt as I do believe it is already
> built in to Firefox 19.0.2 as I didn't have to install it when I
> bumped up to Fedora 18.
> 
> 
> 
> On 03/22/2013 11:37 AM, Ron Frazier (ALE) wrote:
>>>> Hi JD,
>>>> 
>>>> My experience with evince on Ubuntu, which is what I believe
>>>> loads when you start document viewer, is that it's abilities
>>>> for viewing complex pdf's and controlling page layout and
>>>> zoom and switching are far inferior to Adobe Reader.  At one
>>>> point, I had Adobe Reader installed in Ubuntu because it just
>>>> works better.  Although, now, I might reverse that.  The
>>>> feature set of Foxit seems far more comparable to Adobe,
>>>> while still being more secure, they say.  I haven't tried to
>>>> install it on linux yet, so I don't know if there is a ppa.
>>>> Regarding flash, I find that indispensable.  There are tons
>>>> of sites that won't work without it.  However, I only allow
>>>> it to run on sites I trust using noscript, as you suggested.
>>>> My banking sites, as it turns out, are happy enough using
>>>> javascript. They don't have to have flash.  That ruby on
>>>> rails video you posted in another thread is Youtube.  Gotta
>>>> have flash for that.
>>>> 
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> 
>>>> Ron
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> JD <jdp at algoloma.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Why not use native PDF tools on Linux? * xournal for 
>>>>> editing/markups (to embed the edits, save-as PDF) * evince
>>>>> if searching (xournal doesn't have search for some reason)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sorry, I'm just confused.  If it doesn't have a PPA or it
>>>>> isn't in the distro repository, I don't want it on my
>>>>> system.  Getting programs directly from a ZIP or tgz or
>>>>> even a DEB is soooooo 1980s.   Package manager have freed
>>>>> us from the droll work of software updates from 50
>>>>> different places.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hopefully everyone knows to avoid all programs made by
>>>>> Adobe by this point too, though I will admit to using Flash
>>>>> in an extremely selective manner. It is not enabled
>>>>> anywhere by default.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 03/22/2013 10:01 AM, Ron Frazier (ALE) wrote:
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> (Ignore the fact that some program names are not
>>>>>> capitalized. I just
>>>>> didn't
>>>>>> want to mess with it.)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Because of all the security problems with Adobe reader,
>>>>>> I decided to
>>>>> switch to
>>>>>> foxit for pdf viewing rather than adobe, but I wanted to
>>>>>> keep adobe
>>>>> as a backup
>>>>>> for more complex pdf files.  This sounds easy, but it's
>>>>>> not as easy
>>>>> as you might
>>>>>> think to get it working right.  Also, the foxit installer
>>>>>> does not
>>>>> set up
>>>>>> everything correctly and securely in this case.  I
>>>>>> thought I'd share
>>>>> my
>>>>>> experience in case anyone is wanting to do the same
>>>>>> thing.  For my
>>>>> purposes, I
>>>>>> prefer not to view pdf's in the browser, but to have the
>>>>>> reader pop
>>>>> up.  I have
>>>>>> the configuration set for this.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> (Warning, for security reasons, if you do have Adobe
>>>>>> Reader on your
>>>>> system, and
>>>>>> you intend to keep it, go into its preferences and turn
>>>>>> off
>>>>> javascript before
>>>>>> doing the following procedures, since Adobe reader could
>>>>>> start up by
>>>>> mistake.
>>>>>> This post tells how to configure Foxit, not Adobe.  There
>>>>>> are a
>>>>> number of other
>>>>>> settings to configure Adobe reader for safety which are
>>>>>> not
>>>>> documented here.  I
>>>>>> can list those if anyone has a need for it.)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What I did here is on Windows, but almost everything
>>>>>> applies to Linux
>>>>> too, but
>>>>>> some of the procedures would be different.  Some of the
>>>>>> Linux gurus
>>>>> can tell how
>>>>>> to do those things that are different.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> NOTE: YOU MUST DO ALL THESE PROCEDURES, OTHER THAN FOXIT
>>>>> INSTALLATION, ON EACH
>>>>>> USER LOGIN.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You can get the foxit reader here:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.foxitsoftware.com/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Install it according to the normal procedures for your
>>>>>> system.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You are NOT done, at this point.  You just think you
>>>>>> are.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Start the foxit reader.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Go into the preferences screen and check / set the
>>>>>> following tabs /
>>>>> settings:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> File Associations page: Click the make default PDF
>>>>>> viewer button (just to double
>>>>> check), click OK
>>>>>> CHECK always perform check when starting foxit reader
>>>>>> UNCHECK (per your preference) display pdf in browser
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> General page: (not security related, but are my
>>>>>> preferences) UNCHECK make hand tool select text UNCHECK
>>>>>> auto hide status bar UNCHECK show start page
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> JavaScript page: (note this defaults to a LESS secure
>>>>>> setting) UNCHECK enable javascript actions
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Trust Manager page: (this will default to what you set
>>>>>> during
>>>>> install)
>>>>>> CHECK enable safe reading mode
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Updater page: (these are my preferences) SELECT
>>>>>> automatically install updates
>>>>>> 
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>>>> typing on the touch screen.
>>>> 
>>>> (PS - If you email me and don't get a quick response, you
>>>> might want to call on the phone.  I get about 300 emails per
>>>> day from alternate energy mailing lists and such.  I don't
>>>> always see new email messages very quickly.)
>>>> 
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> --
> 
> Sent from my Android Acer A500 tablet with bluetooth keyboard and
> K-9 Mail. Please excuse my potential brevity if I'm typing on the
> touch screen.
> 
> (PS - If you email me and don't get a quick response, you might
> want to call on the phone.  I get about 300 emails per day from
> alternate energy mailing lists and such.  I don't always see new
> email messages very quickly.)
> 
> Ron Frazier 770-205-9422 (O)   Leave a message. linuxdude AT
> techstarship.com
> 
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