[ale] [OT] dealing with flu and staying out of the hospital

Tue Mar 19 14:40:22 EDT 2013

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Pete Hardie <pete.hardie at gmail.com> wrote:

> Antibiotics for the flu?  Isn't flu viral? (in the original sense)
>

common (mostly  bad) medical practice to give antibiotic even for viral
issue. Theory is to unstress immune system so it can focus on viral issue.
Evidence (moderately strong) points to this practice as part of antibiotic
failures (low exposure to antibiotic leads to germ immunity to
antibiotics). Practice is prophylactic for insurance reasons ("we did all
we could").

>
> Pete Hardie
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> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Brian Stanaland <brian at stanaland.org>wrote:
>
>> I missed three days of work with it last week. My temperature hovered
>> around 99-100 from Monday to Wednesday. It started at 102 Saturday morning.
>> Fluids, antibiotics (pills and a shot), broth with lots of sage, and rest.
>> I don't think I've been more ill in my adult life.
>>
>> --Brian
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:36 PM, George Allen <glallen01 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Too late. Already got it myself. Been averaging 1/2gal OJ/day+
>>> gatoraid and at least one cup of coffee. Was back in town this
>>> weekend, and  my wife took me to Duluth for some Yukaejang (Korean
>>> beef soup) which took me from 40% to 85% for about two hours... (it
>>> has enough chili pepper in it to strip paint and cure scurvy). Her
>>> Kimchi Soup also has the same effect, salty, packed with vitamins,
>>> makes you thirsty.
>>>
>>> And yes, don't get it - this bug is nasty.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > The salty makes you chug the fluids while helping prevent further fluid
>>> > elimination. It also causes the stomach lining to calm after nausea.
>>> As soon
>>> > as vomiting ceases, the miso soup starts at my house. It has  a 15+
>>> year
>>> > track record helping the bounce back pick up steam. It is highly
>>> recommend.
>>> >
>>> > On Mar 17, 2013 9:55 AM, "Lightner, Jeff" <JLightner at water.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Salty is very bad if you’re running at the end already.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> One of the most annoying commercials to me these days is the one for
>>> >> Tamiflu.   It says it is only effective if taken near the onset of
>>> symptoms
>>> >> but you have to get it from your doctor.  How many doctors actually
>>> see
>>> >> patients on short notice?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Jim
>>> >> Kinney
>>> >> Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 6:01 PM
>>> >> To: Atlanta User Group (E-mail)
>>> >> Subject: Re: [ale] [OT] dealing with flu and staying out of the
>>> hospital
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Instant miso soup. Its stupid salty which seems to rapidly settle the
>>> >> stomach. Tastes good and has decent nutrients. Add instant rice for a
>>> bit
>>> >> more energy.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mar 16, 2013 2:46 PM, "John Pilman" <jcpilman at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> I am sorry you have to deal with this and hope you get well soon.
>>> >>
>>> >> For our family, clear liquids have been prescribed, and fruit juices
>>> don't
>>> >> always qualify.
>>> >>
>>> >> ...John
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mar 16, 2013 1:32 PM, "Ron Frazier (ALE)"
>>> >> <atllinuxenthinfo at techstarship.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi all,
>>> >>
>>> >> I decided to write a bit about malware attacks on humans by nature
>>> and on
>>> >> technology by humans (in another thread).
>>> >>
>>> >> I've been very ill with one of those nasty flu things going around.
>>>  This
>>> >> is off topic but may be useful to anyone with a family member dealing
>>> with
>>> >> this.  I have hardly left the bed nor the bathroom and have hardly
>>> touched
>>> >> food or a computer in days.  Do everything you can to keep your immune
>>> >> system strong and avoid this thing.  Trust me, you DON'T want it.  The
>>> >> following may be common knowledge, but it bears repeating.  If you
>>> get this,
>>> >> and it get's to a certain point, it will dehydrate you FAST.  You
>>> will not
>>> >> wish to eat or drink.  There came a point when I said to myself, I'm
>>> getting
>>> >> weaker and I could end up in the hospital.  You HAVE to keep drinking.
>>> >> Preferably something like a Gatorade (without dyes and artificial
>>> >> sweeteners), or fruit juice.  Something with calories and nutrients.
>>>  I
>>> >> found carbonated beverages to be harmful since they pressurise your
>>> stomach,
>>> >> which this disease does anyway.  Average humans need about 1/2 their
>>> body
>>> >> weight in ounces in liquid every !
>>> >>  day.  That means about 100 ounces / day for a 200 lb person.
>>> >>
>>> >> So, my advice is, for what it's worth, don't get it.  Easier said than
>>> >> done.  If you do get it, taking something like coldeze or zicam
>>> quickly
>>> >> might slow it down a bit, but I haven't tested it.  It hit me hard
>>> and fast,
>>> >> and I woke up at 4 AM Tuesday shivering under the covers with no
>>> warning the
>>> >> night before.  If you get to the living in the bathroom stage, you
>>> must keep
>>> >> hydrating at all costs.
>>> >>
>>> >> Sincerely,
>>> >>
>>> >> Ron
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >>
>>> >> Sent from my Android Acer A500 tablet with bluetooth keyboard and K-9
>>> >> Mail.
>>> >> Please excuse my potential brevity if I'm typing on the touch screen.
>>> >>
>>> >> (PS - If you email me and don't get a quick response, you might want
>>> to
>>> >> call on the phone.  I get about 300 emails per day from alternate
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>>> >> mailing lists and such.  I don't always see new email messages very
>>> >> quickly.)
>>> >>
>>> >> Ron Frazier
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>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
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