[ale] OT Fwd: Dc404-Chat New smart locks for your home
JD
jdp at algoloma.com
Thu Jun 20 20:42:34 EDT 2013
Though GA specifically created a law preventing we follow the fed standard. It was passed and signed in the last 2 yes.
Or I could be mistaken.
"Ron Frazier (ALE)" <atllinuxenthinfo at techstarship.com> wrote:
>That stuff looks pretty cool. May end up needing it. I found this
>information about enhanced drivers' licenses. I don't think GA has
>implemented them yet, but they do have an rfid circuit.
>
>https://www.dhs.gov/enhanced-drivers-licenses-what-are-they
>
><quote on>
>
>State-issued enhanced drivers licenses (EDLs) provide proof of
>identity
>and U.S. citizenship, are issued in a secure process, and include
>technology that makes travel easier. They provide travelers with a
>low-cost, convenient alternative for entering the United States from
>Canada, Mexico or the Caribbean through a land or sea port of entry, in
>
>addition to serving as a permit to drive.
>
>The Department has been working with states to enhance their drivers
>licenses and identification documents to comply with travel rules under
>
>the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative (WHTI)
><https://www.dhs.gov/files/crossingborders/whtibasics.shtm>, effective
>June 1, 2009. The states of Michigan, New York, Vermont and Washington
>are issuing these enhanced drivers licenses.
>
>Enhanced drivers licenses make it easier for U.S. citizens to cross the
>
>border into the United States because they include
>
> * a vicinity Radio Frequency Identification (RFID)
> <https://www.dhs.gov/files/crossingborders/gc_1197652575426.shtm>
> chip that will signal a secure system to pull up your biographic
> and biometric data for the CBP officer as you approach the border
> inspection booth, and
> * a Machine Readable Zone (MRZ) or barcode that the CBP officer can
> read electronically if RFID isn't available.
>
>The top 39 land ports of entry, which process more than 95 percent of
>land border crossings, are equipped with RFID technology that helps
>facilitate travel by individual presenting EDLs or one of the other
>RFID-enabled documents.
>
><quote off>
>
>Might have to get some of the special shielding fabric you mentioned
>for
>my DL or a special pouch like I already have for my passport. It's
>probably a crime to "vandalize" that card and deactivate the chip.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Ron
>
>
>On 6/20/2013 1:48 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:
>
>> wrap your RFID cards in this stuff:
>>
>> http://www.adafruit.com/products/1168
>>
>> or go anti-emf crazy and buy a larger blob from:
>>
>> http://www.lessemf.com/fabric.html
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Alex Carver
><agcarver+ale at acarver.net
>> <mailto:agcarver+ale at acarver.net>> wrote:
>>
>> On 6/20/2013 09:50, Ron Frazier (ALE) wrote:
>>
>> On 6/20/2013 10:49 AM, William Bagwell wrote:
>>
>> On Thursday 20 June 2013, Alex Carver wrote:
>>
>> Ok, then use the bright light to illuminate the card
>> from the edge. If
>> you get the light just right you should see a square
>> dimple in the back
>> of the card where the pocket for the chip is located.
>> On my card,
>> looking at the back of the card with the mag stripe
>on
>> top, it is
>> located just 5mm (to the center of the dimple) below
>> the bottom edge of
>> the mag stripe and 10 mm in from the right edge. A
>> bright light shining
>> across the card (the way you might shine light across
>> a floor to look
>> for a lost screw or other tiny part) should highlight
>> the dimple.
>>
>> Bingo! Barley detectable 'pad' about 5mm square.
>Confirmed
>> on the
>> sacrificial
>> card - metallic foil and has the 2mm chip with in.
>>
>> On a Chase Slate it is above the mag stripe and the
>curved
>> "Blink" symbol
>> points almost directly at it.
>>
>>
>> I'm interested to know if that card had any writing, symbols,
>> or legend
>> on it to indicate that you can use it wirelessly. What's the
>> point of
>> putting it in there if you don't notify the customer that he
>/
>> she can
>> use it that way?
>>
>> I used one of those 1,000,000 candle power hand held
>> spotlights like you
>> get at a tool or auto store to look through my cards. The
>> trick is to
>> hold the card in such a way so you don't blind yourself in
>the
>> process.
>> I don't think any of them have the rf circuitry. If they do,
>> and I
>> haven't been informed by the bank, I will be rather annoyed.
>>
>> I thought about getting a cheap rfid reader from amazon to
>> tinker with
>> and test the cards. 5 minutes of searching revealed a large
>> enough
>> disparity of pricing and technology that I gave up on that
>for
>> the moment.
>>
>> The following google search yields a large number of results
>> that could
>> be interesting. Haven't had time to sort through them.
>>
>> (destroy OR disable OR deactivate) rfid credit card
>>
>>
>> Yes, if the card has the technology it's marked. AmEx uses a
>> symbol similar to the radio wave symbol you might see on a WiFi
>> device (do a google search for Wifi Symbol and it's the curved
>> lines that you find in most of the symbols). Their marketing
>> lingo is ExpressPay. Visa and Mastercard should have similar
>> symbols or branding on the card. THey don't put the technology
>in
>> all of their cards so it has to be obvious which cards do have
>it.
>>
>> I believe the RFID chip in a credit card is of the LF variety
>(kHz
>> range). There is also VHF and UHF RFID technology, too. Some
>> readers can handle all three types, others only one. Sparkfun
>has
>> a few readers, too.
>>
>> While doing a search I found a YouTube video with Adam Savage (of
>> Mythbuster fame) explaining to an audience at a tech show why
>> Discovery/Mythbusters aren't allowed to do an RFID episode (hint,
>> the credit card companies told them no).
>>
>> I'm not a tinfoil hat type person but these things are hackable
>> (same as the passport chips, too). It wouldn't be much of a
>> problem if the life cycle was shorter but the passports and
>credit
>> cards are designed to hang around for a few years or more. If a
>> flaw is discovered that exposes information, there's a very large
>> population of devices out in the field that have to get replaced
>> quickly and that's not easy.
>>
>>
>>
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