[ale] OT Fwd: Dc404-Chat New smart locks for your home
Ron Frazier (ALE)
atllinuxenthinfo at techstarship.com
Thu Jun 20 15:11:41 EDT 2013
A google search for rfid protective sleeve yields lots of interesting
results. The following caught my eye because it's a 3m product. They
usually produce pretty good stuff.
http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/ElectricalOEM/Home/Products/DataProtectionSleeves/
Sincerely,
Ron
On 6/20/2013 2:21 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:
> If the gov issued ID came with RFID and it's not working anymore,
> that's probably a much bigger problem than anyone wants to have.
> Especially at the border on the way back in!
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Ron Frazier (ALE)
> <atllinuxenthinfo at techstarship.com
> <mailto:atllinuxenthinfo at techstarship.com>> wrote:
>
> That stuff looks pretty cool. May end up needing it. I found
> this information about enhanced drivers' licenses. I don't think
> GA has implemented them yet, but they do have an rfid circuit.
>
> https://www.dhs.gov/enhanced-drivers-licenses-what-are-they
>
> <quote on>
>
> State-issued enhanced drivers licenses (EDLs) provide proof of
> identity and U.S. citizenship, are issued in a secure process,
> and include technology that makes travel easier. They provide
> travelers with a low-cost, convenient alternative for entering the
> United States from Canada, Mexico or the Caribbean through a land
> or sea port of entry, in addition to serving as a permit to drive.
>
> The Department has been working with states to enhance their
> drivers licenses and identification documents to comply with
> travel rules under the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative (WHTI)
> <https://www.dhs.gov/files/crossingborders/whtibasics.shtm>,
> effective June 1, 2009. The states of Michigan, New York, Vermont
> and Washington are issuing these enhanced drivers licenses.
>
> Enhanced drivers licenses make it easier for U.S. citizens to
> cross the border into the United States because they include
>
> * a vicinity Radio Frequency Identification (RFID)
> <https://www.dhs.gov/files/crossingborders/gc_1197652575426.shtm>
> chip that will signal a secure system to pull up your
> biographic and biometric data for the CBP officer as you
> approach the border inspection booth, and
> * a Machine Readable Zone (MRZ) or barcode that the CBP
> officer can read electronically if RFID isn't available.
>
> The top 39 land ports of entry, which process more than 95 percent
> of land border crossings, are equipped with RFID technology that
> helps facilitate travel by individual presenting EDLs or one of
> the other RFID-enabled documents.
>
> <quote off>
>
> Might have to get some of the special shielding fabric you
> mentioned for my DL or a special pouch like I already have for my
> passport. It's probably a crime to "vandalize" that card and
> deactivate the chip.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Ron
>
>
> On 6/20/2013 1:48 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:
>
>> wrap your RFID cards in this stuff:
>>
>> http://www.adafruit.com/products/1168
>>
>> or go anti-emf crazy and buy a larger blob from:
>>
>> http://www.lessemf.com/fabric.html
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Alex Carver
>> <agcarver+ale at acarver.net <mailto:agcarver+ale at acarver.net>> wrote:
>>
>> On 6/20/2013 09:50, Ron Frazier (ALE) wrote:
>>
>> On 6/20/2013 10:49 AM, William Bagwell wrote:
>>
>> On Thursday 20 June 2013, Alex Carver wrote:
>>
>> Ok, then use the bright light to illuminate the
>> card from the edge. If
>> you get the light just right you should see a
>> square dimple in the back
>> of the card where the pocket for the chip is
>> located. On my card,
>> looking at the back of the card with the mag
>> stripe on top, it is
>> located just 5mm (to the center of the dimple)
>> below the bottom edge of
>> the mag stripe and 10 mm in from the right edge.
>> A bright light shining
>> across the card (the way you might shine light
>> across a floor to look
>> for a lost screw or other tiny part) should
>> highlight the dimple.
>>
>> Bingo! Barley detectable 'pad' about 5mm square.
>> Confirmed on the
>> sacrificial
>> card - metallic foil and has the 2mm chip with in.
>>
>> On a Chase Slate it is above the mag stripe and the
>> curved "Blink" symbol
>> points almost directly at it.
>>
>>
>> I'm interested to know if that card had any writing,
>> symbols, or legend
>> on it to indicate that you can use it wirelessly. What's
>> the point of
>> putting it in there if you don't notify the customer that
>> he / she can
>> use it that way?
>>
>> I used one of those 1,000,000 candle power hand held
>> spotlights like you
>> get at a tool or auto store to look through my cards.
>> The trick is to
>> hold the card in such a way so you don't blind yourself
>> in the process.
>> I don't think any of them have the rf circuitry. If they
>> do, and I
>> haven't been informed by the bank, I will be rather annoyed.
>>
>> I thought about getting a cheap rfid reader from amazon
>> to tinker with
>> and test the cards. 5 minutes of searching revealed a
>> large enough
>> disparity of pricing and technology that I gave up on
>> that for the moment.
>>
>> The following google search yields a large number of
>> results that could
>> be interesting. Haven't had time to sort through them.
>>
>> (destroy OR disable OR deactivate) rfid credit card
>>
>>
>> Yes, if the card has the technology it's marked. AmEx uses a
>> symbol similar to the radio wave symbol you might see on a
>> WiFi device (do a google search for Wifi Symbol and it's the
>> curved lines that you find in most of the symbols). Their
>> marketing lingo is ExpressPay. Visa and Mastercard should
>> have similar symbols or branding on the card. THey don't put
>> the technology in all of their cards so it has to be obvious
>> which cards do have it.
>>
>> I believe the RFID chip in a credit card is of the LF variety
>> (kHz range). There is also VHF and UHF RFID technology, too.
>> Some readers can handle all three types, others only one.
>> Sparkfun has a few readers, too.
>>
>> While doing a search I found a YouTube video with Adam Savage
>> (of Mythbuster fame) explaining to an audience at a tech show
>> why Discovery/Mythbusters aren't allowed to do an RFID
>> episode (hint, the credit card companies told them no).
>>
>> I'm not a tinfoil hat type person but these things are
>> hackable (same as the passport chips, too). It wouldn't be
>> much of a problem if the life cycle was shorter but the
>> passports and credit cards are designed to hang around for a
>> few years or more. If a flaw is discovered that exposes
>> information, there's a very large population of devices out
>> in the field that have to get replaced quickly and that's not
>> easy.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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