[ale] OT security not at QT gas pump

[Michael Potter]

Mike H, Please share some brilliant bad people stories......


On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Mike Harrison <cluon at geeklabs.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 27 Jul 2013, Ron Frazier (ALE) wrote:
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>> Had to share this with you.  I go to the QT gas pump.  I swipe the debit
>> card.  The screen says enter your pin number or press no.  So, just like I
>> would if I was a thief, I press no.  The pump asks me to select my fuel
>> grade, which I do.  Then I proceed to fill my tank.  Great security.
>>
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> On many better systems, you get prompted for a zip code,
> as others have said.
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> Option B: "credit card" rather than "debit card" mode, means the merchant
> pays a higher percentage fee for the less secured mode, both in terms of
> the card transaction and your ability to deny the charge (charge back)
> later. Other logic at play may be a limit ($50 or $75) on that swipe only
> transaction, limiting their exposure. I've had pumps when travelling that
> limited me to a $50 charge as a credit card, but no limit in debit mode.
> You notice it when towing a trailer.
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> What you also may have run into, but probably not notice, is pumps and
> associated systems with camera's. When you swipe the card, they snap a shot
> of you and your car. The really good ones have camera's mounted at angles
> that can snag you/car and license plate and record a still as part of the
> transaction, saved for as long as they have hard drive space. You'll notice
> the ones at big truck stops with the monitors mounted near the cashiers,
> but many of them are not so noticable.
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> What really keeps ancient credit card technology secure is that -most-
> people are honest, and most dishonest people aren't that bright. What keeps
> me (and the world) paranoid is the few times I've bumped into brilliant bad
> people. They are out there.
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