[ale] OT Just bought my 1st & 2nd "lighting-class" LED bulbs

Jim Kinney jim.kinney at gmail.com
Tue Jul 23 18:16:20 EDT 2013


must replace my SEER 0.001 with something MUCH better (looking at a SEER 16
unit). Plus add a crapload of insulation in attic and glob on the
ultra-bright white roof paint. My June power bill was $380.

Why do people insist on BLACK shingles in the hot states? Aesthetics be
damned! AC bills prevent me from have other fun :-(  The only black things
I want my roof are solar panels for power and hot water.


On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 6:02 PM, James Sumners <james.sumners at gmail.com>wrote:

> Do yourself a favor and learn to distinguish bulbs by their lumen output,
> not their incandescent wattage equivalence. That's a practice that should
> never have been implemented. It's not really a direct equivalence, and it
> just ends up making folks say the wrong thing (e.g. saying 40w when they
> really have a 7w).
>
> Also, make sure the Crees are rated for enclosed installation before
> putting them in your outdoor fixtures. Most brands are not. I use the ULTRA
> bulbs by Sylvania and the off-brand EcoSmart bulbs. Neither, of those that
> I have bought, have been rated thus.
>
> My favorite LED bulbs so far are the Phillips (damn expensive, but coming
> down; still worth it, though) and the ULTRAs. Just about every bulb in my
> house is a LED. My power bill, with a SEER 10 A/C unit running, for May was
> $99 after taxes and fees. They make a huge difference.
>
>
> On Tuesday, July 23, 2013, Ron Frazier (ALE) wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Just thought I'd throw this out there since you guys like geeky stuff.  I
>> just bought my 1st & 2nd "lighting-class" LED bulbs.  I have a couple of
>> fixtures that are hard to get to and work with to replace bulbs on my
>> porch.  For some time, those bulbs have been out and we've been using a
>> free standing lamp out there.  Today, I decided to take the leap and try
>> LED.  I've only had the product open for a little while and have been
>> testing it in a table lamp, but my initial reaction is that I'm VERY
>> impressed.  At $ 13 / bulb, I won't be replacing all my CFL's yet, but
>> maybe one at a time when they burn out.  The porch lights have to wait
>> until I deal with some uninvited wasps that are there.
>>
>> This is the Cree warm white 2700 K color temperature 60 W bulb
>> replacement from Home Depot.  The appearance and shape is like a standard
>> incandescent bulb and this particular one puts out a pretty omnidirectional
>> light.  Right on the top of the bulb is a small area of dimness at the top
>> of the "LED Filament Tower", but otherwise, I wouldn't know it's not a
>> standard bulb by looking at its light.
>>
>> This bulb has some really cool features:
>>
>> * It uses just 9.5 W of power to provide the equivalent of 60 W of
>> incandescent light.
>>
>> * It's warranted for 10 years at 6 hrs / day (with proof of purchase).
>>  This works out to 25,000 hrs.  This is 20X the life of an incandescent and
>> 2X the life of a GOOD CFL.
>>
>> * You can touch the bulb, even hold it, while running; and your hand will
>> get warm but not burned.  However, DON'T touch the heat sink directly.
>>  This is about hot enough to burn you.  Another Home Depot shopper gave me
>> that tip.
>>
>> * It has a rubber safety coating on the class bulb with a kind of tacky
>> feeling, like a rubber jar opener or something.  Should be less likely to
>> break and less dangerous if it does.  The instructions don't recommend
>> running it with a broken glass casing.
>>
>> * There is no mercury or lead in it.
>>
>> * And, it is DIMMABLE with a STANDARD dimmer.  This is very cool.  I had
>> uninstalled 3 dimmers in my house when I went to using CFL's.  Maybe,
>> eventually, I'll be able to put them back.  This also means you could put
>> it on a photocell, or motion detector.
>>
>> So, even though I've only had the product a few hours, at this point, I
>> highly recommend it.  Hopefully, the prices will keep coming down.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Ron
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
>> (PS - If you email me and don't get a quick response, you might want to
>> call on the phone.  I get about 300 emails per day from alternate energy
>> mailing lists and such.  I don't always see new email messages very
>> quickly.)
>>
>> Ron Frazier
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