[ale] how can a firewalled PC POSSIBLY be attacked?
JD
jdp at algoloma.com
Wed Jan 23 06:18:16 EST 2013
Humans write code and make hardware. We make mistakes. We do not think of all the attack vectors. There are more protocols on a network than ICMP and IP. Many firewalls do not block those other protocols.
No device on a network is safe. You are not paranoid enough.
"Ron Frazier (ALE)" <atllinuxenthinfo at techstarship.com> wrote:
>The discussion on vpn's and security at Emory prompted me to ask this.
>This was prompted by some statements in another thread that a PC could
>be in danger if attached to unfiltered lan ports on Emory's network.
>
>Assume you have a PC connected directly to the internet. It doesn't
>matter if it's linux, windows, mac, or android. I'm speaking in
>conceptual terms. Assume the PC is not running any server type
>programs, so it is not listening on any ports. Assume no one is
>browsing to potentially malicious web pages, or even any web pages.
>The PC is just sitting there idling. Assume the PC has firewall
>software running. The firewall's only job is to drop all packets that
>are not part of a response to an inquiry that this PC has issued. I
>don't want to debate, at this point, the pros and cons of dropping all
>packets or operating in stealth mode.
>
>My question is, conceptually speaking, how can this PC POSSIBLY be
>vulnerable to any remote attack? How could anything phase it?
>
>Then, how does the answer change depending on whether it is linux,
>windows, mac, or android.
>
>Finally, if it were behind a hardware firewall, or router, how could
>any unwanted packets get on the lan?
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Ron
>
>
>--
>
>Sent from my Android Acer A500 tablet with bluetooth keyboard and K-9
>Mail.
>Please excuse my potential brevity.
>
>(To whom it may concern. My email address has changed. Replying to
>former
>messages prior to 03/31/12 with my personal address will go to the
>wrong
>address. Please send all personal correspondence to the new address.)
>
>(PS - If you email me and don't get a quick response, you might want to
>call on the phone. I get about 300 emails per day from alternate
>energy
>mailing lists and such. I don't always see new email messages very
>quickly.)
>
>Ron Frazier
>770-205-9422 (O) Leave a message.
>linuxdude AT techstarship.com
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Ale mailing list
>Ale at ale.org
>http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale
>See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at
>http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo
--
Sent from a Linux system.
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://mail.ale.org/pipermail/ale/attachments/20130123/d5e25059/attachment.html>
More information about the Ale
mailing list