[ale] upgrading my obsolete Ubuntu 11.04 to What?

Thu Jan 3 21:05:15 EST 2013

Hi Edward,

Well, there you go then.  8-)

Actually, all my machines dual boot between Windows and Linux.  One 
machine is happily still running Vista after 5 years.  I'll upgrade to 
Windows 7 when I get around to it.  My point was that it has twice the 
support life cycle of Ubuntu.

Sincerely,

Ron

On 1/3/2013 11:37 AM, Edward Holcroft wrote:
> "So, Vista, which was released in 2007, is supported until 2017, the 
> same as Ubuntu 12.04 LTS."
>
> Well that settles it then: use Vista. :-)
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:13 AM, Ron Frazier (ALE) 
> <atllinuxenthinfo at techstarship.com 
> <mailto:atllinuxenthinfo at techstarship.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi all,
>
>     ( I've been tied up with hard drive maintenance lately.  I have
>     some old threads still waiting for replies on tablet GUI's, hard
>     drive maintenance, and hard drive partitions.  I've got some info
>     to share on these topics when I can.  Thanks for all the replies
>     to those earlier threads.  I just happened to be up late tonight
>     and have been dealing with OS upgrades on Windows, so I thought
>     I'd ask about OS upgrades on Linux too.)
>
>     My Ubuntu 11.04 installs recently went out of support, so I'm
>     considering upgrading.  I want to stick within the Debian lineage
>     since I really like the efficient package management system of APT
>     and am fairly familiar with the way Ubuntu does things.  I hate
>     Unity, as I've ranted about before.  I do like Gnome 2, so I want
>     something similar to that.
>
>     I probably won't be doing Debian 6 Squeeze, per this article:
>
>     http://www.osnews.com/story/24535/Debian_6_Squeeze_Not_Good/
>
>     The main options I'm aware of right now are Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and
>     Mint.  The idea of a full install isn't appealing, since there are
>     hundreds of things I tweak when I install any new OS, and it takes
>     several days.  (Firefox plus Ghostery plus Better Privacy plus
>     NoScript plus Flash alone have about 80 settings options to check,
>     for each user login.)  But, I could do a full install if I have to.
>
>     Based on my reading, I'd probably put Mate on as the UI.  I know
>     this, I must have a categorized MENU of all available apps, like
>     Gnome 2.  The DASH button then type what you want option in Unity
>     is fine if it's an ADJUNCT to the MENU.  If you know what you
>     want, that's wonderful.  If there's a lot more about Linux that
>     you don't know than what you do, like me, then you need a MENU.
>
>     The other thing that's important to me is support.  Ubuntu 12.04
>     LTS is supported for 5 years.  That's good.  Because, I'd much
>     rather spend my time using the computer than upgrading it every
>     couple of years or so.
>
>     Frankly, Microsoft is doing better at this than the Linux
>     community.  My Vista and Windows 7 installs get security and
>     maintenance updates for 10 years, compared to 5 for new LTS
>     versions of Ubuntu, 3 for prior LTS versions (I think), and 1.5 or
>     .5 for some products.
>
>     So, Vista, which was released in 2007, is supported until 2017,
>     the same as Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.
>     Windows 7, which was released in 2009, is supported until 2020,
>     longer than any current Linux I'm familiar with.
>
>     I think that if Linux developers want long term users, they need
>     to get more serious about long term support.  Ubuntu's move to 5
>     year LTS support is a step in the right direction.
>
>     Anyway, from a functionality and usability point of view, do you
>     think I'd be better off with Ubuntu 12.04 and Mate, Mint and Mate,
>     or something else?  I also want to make my upgrade path as
>     relatively painless as possible.  I'm considering doing an in
>     place upgrade to Ubuntu 11.10 and then an in place upgrade to
>     12.04.  I know that will take many hours, but hopefully, most
>     things that used to work will still work.
>
>     Any help is appreciated, as always.
>
>     Sincerely,
>
>     Ron
>
>
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(PS - If you email me and don't get a quick response, you might want to
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