[ale] LPI Certification Study Group
Crawford Rainwater
crawford.rainwater at linux-etc.com
Fri Dec 20 15:16:46 EST 2013
Leam and company:
While I am not trying to rain on anyone's parade, there are pros/cons indeed with a focal or main trainer. Inviting subject matter experts in to discuss topics, such as LUG meetings is one thing. However, there are also subject matter experts that cannot present nor communicate properly to convey the knowledge onto others in a learning capacity. That said, within Linux ETC we have a specific teaching/training methodology and all of us work on a similar "wavelength" as a cooperative. While some practical examples given will vary between trainer to trainer, the core topics and methods are the same. So in the event one of my trainers is unable to teach that day, another can step in and continue a program quite easily. Linux ETC has also been doing training in Linux since 2001, so there is experience here.
Since ALE is a LUG with various meeting locations across the Atlanta area, and there are members who probably do not wish to sit in traffic on a week night commuting around town (yes, I have unfortunately sat in the same said traffic nor care to repeat such), using online training methods help in quite a few ways and makes things somewhat easier for all as a whole. In comparison, the cost of a training facility as well as systems for students to learn on are not easy to come by ($12k/week for 12 students classroom on average back in 2010 before Linux ETC moved everything to "online" and "virtual"). I know for InstallFests that some community colleges are okay with donating a few things such as KVM equipment (keyboard, video, mouse that is) and internet connectivity for an afternoon on a weekend. However, these some facilities are often reluctant due to other requirements and needs of the facility. With the online training methods, all one needs is a Java friendly web browser on any system with a relatively decent internet connection. The cost is considerably less with such, which is one of Linux ETC's primary purposes ("cost effective solutions").
Just putting more items on the table with such a request since not everyone will see a majority of the needs nor angles that need to be covered when doing a training/study group.
FWIW.
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----- Original Message -----
> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 13:20:30 -0500
> From: leam hall <leamhall at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ale] LPI Certification Study Group
>
> Some folks here are interested in an LPIC study group as well. That
> makes face to face difficult with ALE but I'm wondering if we can do
> this with focused study areas and a mentor/coach type process.
>
> I have no problems helping spin things up and taking point. Given the
> intellect and experience I've seen exposed here a one man show would
> be a disservice to the learners.
>
> Does anyone see an insurmountable issue with distance coaching? Who
> would want to learn, who would want to mentor?
>
> Feel free to ping me off line if you need.
>
> Leam
>
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 12:52 AM, Crawford Rainwater
> <crawford.rainwater at linux-etc.com> wrote:
> > Folks:
> >
> > JD is referring to me and my company (Linux ETC) for doing a "study
> > group". Linux ETC could put together something based off of our
> > "self paced mentoring" program which would include the following:
> > - LPIC-1 eBook via O'Reilly.
> > - Linux ETC's LiveUSB key (Knoppix based).
> > - Online learning environment based off of the text.
> > - Virtual training environment.
> > - Mentors/instructors available in a variety of ways depending on
> > the individual/group needs.
> > - Web conferencing sessions for "group sessions".
> >
> > The above of course is not free for Linux ETC of course, thus we
> > would need to charge for the services. The pricing we have for
> > this on an individual basis is $1995 for LPIC-1, with the
> > mentoring being over a one year period (or ~$167/month). Ideally
> > though, the normal pace of most students, the time frame is
> > actually 2.5-3 months from start to finish for "full completion"
> > of the course. I will also say that the "self paced with
> > mentoring" is not meant for everyone since it requires a student
> > that can learn on his/her own a bit more so, versus the "classroom
> > model" being the opposite of having "face to face instructor
> > time".
> >
> > I am open to discussing this on the list as well as off list with
> > those who are interested. I have offered a discount for the LUG
> > in the past (I believe it was 10% off or $200 off), which I can do
> > as well. I do receive the ALE list in Digest format, so pardon
> > any delays in responding to posts from the list in advance.
> >
> > --- Crawford
> >
> > --
> > The Linux ETC Company
> > 10121 Yates Court
> > Westminster, CO 80031 USA
> > voice: +1.303.604.2550
> > web: http://www.linux-etc.com
> >
> > Please do not print this email unless it is absolutely necessary.
> > Be friendly to the environment by saving paper.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 03:10:55 +0700
> >> From: JD <jdp at algoloma.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [ale] LPI Certification Study Group
> >>
> >> On 12/20/2013 12:23 AM, H P Ladds wrote:
> >> > Where would the LPIC study group meet?
> >>
> >> Lots of options.
> >> * A home / rotating homes
> >> * A business / businesses
> >> * A college/University
> >> * Via conference call
> >> * Via web-sharing / hangout
> >>
> >> We don't have a core group showing enough interest to do anymore
> >> research at
> >> this point. There isn't a leader either. I'm willing to help
> >> organize, can't
> >> commit to much more. Other people will need to step up.
> >>
> >> There is a training company asking to help too, but they will
> >> need/want to be
> >> compensated for time, infrastructure, mentors and materials.
> >>
> >> I saw this more as a student/mentor endeavor, but the group would
> >> need to
> >> determine all of this. The people involved would need to be
> >> self-starters with
> >> a real commitment. No tests, just knowledge sharing and a group to
> >> ask questions
> >> and get alternate views about.
> >>
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> > Ale at ale.org
> > http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale
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> > http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 14:33:51 -0500
> From: RJW <rjw505 at gmail.com>
> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
> Subject: Re: [ale] LPI Certification Study Group
> Message-ID: <A4AD2D09-F5E7-429B-9EF9-0EBB17F8AE02 at gmail.com>
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>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I would like to be part of the LPI certification study group. Please
> keep me in the loop on what direction the group take with starting
> this group?
>
> Rodney
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:20 PM, leam hall <leamhall at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Some folks here are interested in an LPIC study group as well. That
> > makes face to face difficult with ALE but I'm wondering if we can
> > do
> > this with focused study areas and a mentor/coach type process.
> >
> > I have no problems helping spin things up and taking point. Given
> > the
> > intellect and experience I've seen exposed here a one man show
> > would
> > be a disservice to the learners.
> >
> > Does anyone see an insurmountable issue with distance coaching? Who
> > would want to learn, who would want to mentor?
> >
> > Feel free to ping me off line if you need.
> >
> > Leam
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 12:52 AM, Crawford Rainwater
> > <crawford.rainwater at linux-etc.com> wrote:
> >> Folks:
> >>
> >> JD is referring to me and my company (Linux ETC) for doing a
> >> "study group". Linux ETC could put together something based off
> >> of our "self paced mentoring" program which would include the
> >> following:
> >> - LPIC-1 eBook via O'Reilly.
> >> - Linux ETC's LiveUSB key (Knoppix based).
> >> - Online learning environment based off of the text.
> >> - Virtual training environment.
> >> - Mentors/instructors available in a variety of ways depending on
> >> the individual/group needs.
> >> - Web conferencing sessions for "group sessions".
> >>
> >> The above of course is not free for Linux ETC of course, thus we
> >> would need to charge for the services. The pricing we have for
> >> this on an individual basis is $1995 for LPIC-1, with the
> >> mentoring being over a one year period (or ~$167/month). Ideally
> >> though, the normal pace of most students, the time frame is
> >> actually 2.5-3 months from start to finish for "full completion"
> >> of the course. I will also say that the "self paced with
> >> mentoring" is not meant for everyone since it requires a student
> >> that can learn on his/her own a bit more so, versus the
> >> "classroom model" being the opposite of having "face to face
> >> instructor time".
> >>
> >> I am open to discussing this on the list as well as off list with
> >> those who are interested. I have offered a discount for the LUG
> >> in the past (I believe it was 10% off or $200 off), which I can
> >> do as well. I do receive the ALE list in Digest format, so
> >> pardon any delays in responding to posts from the list in
> >> advance.
> >>
> >> --- Crawford
> >>
> >> --
> >> The Linux ETC Company
> >> 10121 Yates Court
> >> Westminster, CO 80031 USA
> >> voice: +1.303.604.2550
> >> web: http://www.linux-etc.com
> >>
> >> Please do not print this email unless it is absolutely necessary.
> >> Be friendly to the environment by saving paper.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 03:10:55 +0700
> >>> From: JD <jdp at algoloma.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: [ale] LPI Certification Study Group
> >>>
> >>>> On 12/20/2013 12:23 AM, H P Ladds wrote:
> >>>> Where would the LPIC study group meet?
> >>>
> >>> Lots of options.
> >>> * A home / rotating homes
> >>> * A business / businesses
> >>> * A college/University
> >>> * Via conference call
> >>> * Via web-sharing / hangout
> >>>
> >>> We don't have a core group showing enough interest to do anymore
> >>> research at
> >>> this point. There isn't a leader either. I'm willing to help
> >>> organize, can't
> >>> commit to much more. Other people will need to step up.
> >>>
> >>> There is a training company asking to help too, but they will
> >>> need/want to be
> >>> compensated for time, infrastructure, mentors and materials.
> >>>
> >>> I saw this more as a student/mentor endeavor, but the group would
> >>> need to
> >>> determine all of this. The people involved would need to be
> >>> self-starters with
> >>> a real commitment. No tests, just knowledge sharing and a group
> >>> to
> >>> ask questions
> >>> and get alternate views about.
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Ale mailing list
> >> Ale at ale.org
> >> http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale
> >> See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at
> >> http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Mind on a Mission
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Ale at ale.org
> > http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale
> > See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at
> > http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo
>
>
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