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Tue Nov 13 08:16:38 EST 2012


<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">Geoffrey Myers<br>
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On Apr 12, 2013, at 9:12 AM, Michael Campbell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michael=
.campbell at gmail.com">michael.campbell at gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; I always have problems with that functionality for some reason; maybe<=
br>
&gt; it&#39;s my aura. =A0;-\<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Having said that though, I have a Lenovo U310 that works with Mint<br>
&gt; (14, xfce) very well, and suspend/resume DOES work.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 11:55 PM, Doug Hall &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:doug=
halldev at gmail.com">doughalldev at gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; I didn&#39;t specifically test the suspend/resume. When he gets hi=
s second unit,<br>
&gt;&gt; I&#39;ll be sure to test it. (He gave the first one away to a clos=
e family<br>
&gt;&gt; friend.)<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Doug<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:51 AM, James Taylor<br>
&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com">James.Taylor=
@eastcobbgroup.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; I can&#39;t speak for that model, but I picked up an envy last=
 summer and I&#39;ve<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; been running, openSUSE on it. Initially 12.2, now 12.3.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Everything worked out of the box (sound, hdcam, wireless, butt=
ons,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; touchpad, mic, etc...), including suspend/resume. The only gli=
tch I&#39;ve run<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; into, is that the screen light turns off during boot, and I ha=
ve to turn up<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; the brightness before Iogin. I ran across a fix somewhere once=
, but I lost<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; the link and haven&#39;t been irritated enough to go search fo=
r it again yet.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; -jt<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; James Taylor<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; The East Cobb Group, Inc.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"tel:678-697-9420" value=3D"+16786979420">678-697-94=
20</a><br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"mailto:james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com">james.taylor=
@eastcobbgroup.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.eastcobbgroup.com" target=3D"_blank">htt=
p://www.eastcobbgroup.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Ed Cashin &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ecashin at noserose.n=
et">ecashin at noserose.net</a>&gt; 04/09/13 9:08 AM &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Thanks for all the great info.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Does suspend/resume work well? =A0Any surprises?<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Doug Hall &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:doughalldev at gmail.com">doughalldev at gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I told you all that I&#39;d let you know what he ordered a=
nd how the install<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; went. He decided on the HP Envy DV6 laptop. It has a 3rd g=
en i7 chip, which<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; seems pretty quick. I haven&#39;t run any performance test=
s, but if someone<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; knows of a good performance test suite, and is interested,=
 I&#39;ll give it a<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; run.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Here&#39;s what he bought:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AFHP55S=
/ref=3Doh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=3DUTF8&amp;psc=3D1" target=3D"_blank">http=
://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AFHP55S/ref=3Doh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=3DU=
TF8&amp;psc=3D1</a>&gt;<br>

&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Predictably, Windows 8 seems slow in comparison to Ubuntu =
12.10. I think<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; an SSD drive would have made a big difference. Quite hones=
tly though, he&#39;s<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; giving this one to a friend who&#39;s a computer novice, a=
nd will probably order<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; another one for himself.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; The Ubuntu install didn&#39;t go as smoothly as I thought =
it should. I&#39;d<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; heard about the Windows &quot;safe boot&quot; mode, and pr=
edicted that there would be<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; some problems. The thing is, the problems didn&#39;t manif=
est themselves as they<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; might should have. If you try to install, or simply choose=
 the option to<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; verify the install CD, it fails to read a particular secto=
r of the CD. It<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; makes it look like the CD (DVD) failed to write correctly.=
 I think I made<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; three or four DVDs, from two different DVD burners before =
I realized that<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; this just wasn&#39;t the case. The MD5sum for the ISO was =
correct, and the DVD<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; burning software verified the contents of the DVD after ea=
ch burn. The<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; problem was, the BIOS was expecting a &quot;Secure Boot&qu=
ot; image. Yea! Microsoft!<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Thank you for protecting us, digital overlords!<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; There were two different settings in the BIOS which I had =
to change to<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; get everything working. Under the &quot;System Configurati=
on&quot; of the BIOS, there<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; are settings called &quot;Legacy Support&quot; and &quot;S=
ecure Boot&quot;. The notes for the<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Legacy Support setting says: &quot;When Legacy Support is =
enabled, BIOS will load<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Compatibility Support Module (CSM) to support Legacy OS su=
ch as Windows 7,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Windows Vista, Windows XP, and DOS. When Legacy Support is=
 disabled, it will<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; boot in UEFI Mode without CSM to support newer OS such as =
Windows 8.&quot;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I&#39;ve forgotten, but I think I had to enable Legacy Sup=
port in order to<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; install Ubuntu, but then I could turn it off. It&#39;s now=
 disabled, and with<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Grub2 controlling the Master Boot record, it works just fi=
ne. By the way, I<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; had to manually install Grub2 over the Master Boot record.=
 The Ubuntu<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; installer wasn&#39;t smart enough to figure out where to i=
nstall Grub, even<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; though I specifically said to &quot;Install alongside Wind=
ows 8&quot; when I was<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; configuring the install. I created a &quot;Linux Secure Re=
mix&quot; install CD, which<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; included a &quot;Boot Repair&quot; application to fix the =
Master Boot Record.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxSecu=
reRemix" target=3D"_blank">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxSecureRem=
ix</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; The &quot;Secure Boot&quot; setting is also disabled in th=
e BIOS setting. However,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Grub2 provides a &quot;Windows UEFI bkbootmgfw.efi&quot; a=
nd also a &quot;Windows 8 Boot<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; UEFI loader&quot; option (which I assume are equivalent, b=
ecause both of them<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; work), to boot Windows 8.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; As to my overall impressions of the laptop, I think I&#39;=
d rate it an 8 out<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; of 10. It&#39;s alright, and perfectly acceptable for most=
 people. But I<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; personally don&#39;t like the keyboard layout. The Enter k=
ey is massive. The<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; arrow keys are stacked in such a way that the up and down =
arrows are<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; squashed, to make the two of them the same size as a the l=
eft and right<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; arrows. (I use these keys, so it sucks for me.) He didn&#3=
9;t want me to tear<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; away the plastic covering the webcam, but from the picture=
 it generated<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; through the plastic, it looked acceptable. The monitor was=
 nice, if maybe<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; just a little dimmer on the top left corner, than the rest=
 of the screen,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; but it&#39;s not very noticeable. I think he likes his cho=
ice very much.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Thanks again for the help!<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Doug Hall<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Doug Hall &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:doughalldev at gmail.com">doughalldev at gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; A coworker, whom I switched to Ubuntu a little over a =
year ago, is<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; looking for a nice new linux laptop. I know the Lenovo=
s are usually a pretty<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; good choice. Does anyone else have a laptop they&#39;r=
e thrilled with, which<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; will run Mint or Ubuntu? He&#39;s not a techie, so com=
patibility is important. I<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; think he uses it for basic things - pictures, email, w=
eb, etc.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Thanks ahead of time!<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
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