[ale] Way OT - the death of Twinkies

Jay Lozier jslozier at gmail.com
Thu Nov 22 13:55:31 EST 2012


On 11/22/2012 08:19 AM, Michael Potter wrote:
> Perhaps the problem is that they make things people do not want to buy.
+1

Did Hostess pay attention to the changes of eating habits and 
demographic changes that would negatively impact their sales? How many 
people who ate their products when much younger eat the same amount? I 
would wager the answer is fairly small, people do change their eating 
habits with time.
>
> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 11/20/2012 03:27 PM, Sparr wrote:
>>> On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Lightner, Jeff <JLightner at water.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Interestingly their main union had actually signed a contract and it was
>>>> a lesser union that went on strike.   A co-worker of mine said that he had
>>>> heard or read that other union did it because they decided they'd make more
>>>> money on unemployment than with the new contract with all the concessions it
>>>> had.
>>> Obvious fix for this would be to not give unemployment to them in this
>>> situation. How is "strike until the company collapses" any different
>>> from "quit voluntarily" in terms of unemployment eligibility?
>>
>> The striking employees have zero decision ability as to the continuation of
>> the business. Only management can make that decision. The strikers want XYZ
>> and the managers decide to fire them all by shutting down the business. The
>> striking employees did not choose to become unemployed, they chose to
>> strike. Their unemployment benefit is based on their last 90 days pay
>> average. If they were striking for 89 of them, they are totally screwed. I'm
>> not clear if strike pay counts towards the employment pay used to calculate
>> unemployment rate. I do know that strike pay is (typically far) less than
>> regular working pay (but better than unemployment).
>>
>> No matter it's looked at, it's bad for far more people than benefit from
>> this.
>>
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