[ale] Do all new large SATA drives suck?

[Cornelis van Dijk]

In defense of Seagate,

Maybe Seagate is going easy on quality control nowadays, but I have a
bunch of ancient 9GB
Seagates, that are all running fine (after spinup!). They are big like
shoeboxes, but indestructible.  I also have several Seagates in the
range of 100 to 300 GB that have been running for years.  I would not
know what to do with a TB drive, even my 500 GB FreeAgent is only 20%
full.


On 3/2/12, gcs8 <gcsviii at gmail.com> wrote:
> Every seagate or maxtor drive I have owned has failed on me, the maxtors
> where never hard fails. I do shy away from the 1.5tb drives from all the
> problems they had in there early days. I had 2 of the 1.5tb seagates for my
> drobo before the 2tb drives where out, they both died on me and I moved to
> wd greens for it and never had a problem. The 40tb san in my house uses the
> samsung spinpoint drives, I don't trust them as far as I can through them
> but they are setup to take some hits.
> On Mar 2, 2012 11:52 AM, "Geoffrey Myers" <lists at serioustechnology.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Geoffrey Myers wrote:
>> > Jeff Hubbs wrote:
>> >>   Consider that the vast majority of people buy and use those drives
>> >> without incident and never think to put a review saying so on any one
>> >> particular vendor site.
>> >
>> > My thinking as well.  People don't post about things that don't work.
>>
>> People don't ost about things that DO work.
>> Jeese, and I've already had my coffee this morning.
>>
>> >
>> >> On 3/2/12 11:18 AM, Neal Rhodes wrote:
>> >>> I've gone ahead and ordered an HP core i3 system to be our next Centos
>> >>> home/office server.
>> >>>
>> >>> It's  got a 1.5TB drive; normally on these off-lease units I'd buy two
>> >>> brand new drives and mirror them.  Or that's what we've done with the
>> >>> last 3 linux servers.     All of which are still technically
>> >>> functioning since Fedora core 1.
>> >>>
>> >>> This drive is likely about a year old, so I'm thinking I'll just buy a
>> >>> new 1.5TB drive and install Centos to mirror the primary.
>> >>>
>> >>> When I look at the crop of 1 - 1.5TB drives on TigerDirect and read
>> >>> the reviews, they seem to be uniformly terrible - DOA,  failed after 3
>> >>> weeks, replacement failed after a week, etc.  Seagate seems to be the
>> >>> worst, although WD not too far behind.
>> >>>
>> >>> Ummm, isn't one of the primary selling features of a disk drive that
>> >>> it's not supposed to blow up and take down all your data with it?
>> >>> Has there been a massive quality slip in the last couple years since I
>> >>> last bought drives?    Seriously -  I can lose a power supply, a
>> >>> motherboard, a display - you name it, and once I replace it I can
>> >>> expect to still have the data.    Yes, I should do backups, and I do,
>> >>> and yes, I should mirror the drives, and I do.    I should do SMARTD
>> >>> monitoring and I do.  But isn't this like selling tires that tend to
>> >>> shred randomly?    Isn't not blowing up catastrophically with no
>> >>> warning beforehand a basic selling point for disk drives?    What's
>> >>> the point of mirroring if the odds are good that both drives will fail
>> >>> completely the same week?   What's the point of SMARTD monitoring if
>> >>> the darn drive quits without warning?
>> >>>
>> >>> Does anybody make a decent drive in that size range?
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm thinking that not even considering economy,  my old theory of
>> >>> buying a pair of new identical drives may not be wise anymore, and
>> >>> sticking with one drive that has lasted over a year and one new drive
>> >>> is a better plan.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thoughts?
>> >>>
>> >>> Neal
>> >>>
>> >>>
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>> Until later, Geoffrey
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