[ale] Time to stir the pot

[John Pilman]

I don't really agree with Stallman, but I'm glad he's there.  I agree
more with Thom Holwerda's statement at the end of the editorial you
linked:
"This is why you should support Android (not Google, but Android),
even if you prefer the iPhone. This is why you should support Linux,
even if you use Windows. This is why you should support Apache, even
if you run IIS."
...John

On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Rich Faulkner <rfaulkner at 34thprs.org> wrote:
> Time to stir the pot?  Okay, you asked for it...  :P
>
> I agree with Stallman and; although I do not "exclusively" use FOSS, I do
> weight very, very heavily upon it and use it in all cases where I can (and
> press to convert to FOSS in all cases possible).  A hardware equivalent has
> been on my mind too in the past year (if such a thing could exist).  (Do to
> the nature of the business we engage in we are forced to support client
> platforms that are usually MS based.  In these cases we have turnkey systems
> that provide this and they are usually provided by the client themselves).
> All others are Linux based solutions including our continued evangelism of
> Linux in the desktop realm.
>
> We too have seen the writing on the wall with this legislation and
> social/political tides that smell as products of Nazi era propaganda and as
> much as we (my wife and I) would be labeled as radicals; I believe (and have
> found) that our sentiment(s) are more in line with those who live(d) outside
> of the US (in western society) than those who live here.  Many (if not all)
> in the Tea Party (here too perhaps) would call us socialists...and that's
> fine with me.  The names don't bother me as I know my convictions and answer
> to a higher authority.  I am not insinuating that President Obama is
> instituting Nazi-era (totalitarian) legislation; but I will defer to reading
> the implications of recent and proposed legislation for myself.  As a matter
> of record we voted for President Obama in 2008 and intend to do so again in
> 2012.
>
> As for us, and in the assumed context of terrorism, we are non-belligerents
> and do not support violent revolution or violent action in any form.
> Criminal action such as terrorism is unthinkable as counter to our Christian
> faith; but we remain aware of the daily threats against us that seek to
> conform and control our thoughts and behaviour in a manner consistent with
> the desires of those who seek to continue to exist off-of-us.  We know the
> source of that and to that end our faith is well addressed and centered.
>
> It is my belief and hope that we will see a reformation of information much
> as we saw a reformation of the church.  Just as Martin Luther brought
> information to the masses; will we see a modern visionary who brings to the
> masses truly free knowledge and information?  Free software imparts
> potentials for free education and free knowledge.  I support this and
> actively participate in this through mentorship and teaching (all for FREE!)
>
> It's hard to really get into this when you're at work so will keep this
> short.  I think Richard Stallman is spot on.  And yes, I too think it should
> be called a GNU/Linux system....
>
> RinL
>
>
>
> On Tue, 2012-01-03 at 10:33 -0500, Jim Kinney wrote:
>
> http://www.osnews.com/story/25469/Richard_Stallman_Was_Right_All_Along
>
> I've thought all along that Stalman was a better barometer of how things
> need to be than the pundits would give him credit. And yes, it should be
> called a GNU/Linux system.
>
> the list has been rather dull lately. Time for some lively, er, um, heated
> discussion :-)
>
> I would love a totally open, freedom-friendly hardware stack. Stallman sees
> the hardware stuff of binary blobs and similar ilk as very, very bad for
> people freedom. I totally agree.
>
> --
> --
> James P. Kinney III
>
> As long as the general population is passive, apathetic, diverted to
> consumerism or hatred of the vulnerable, then the powerful can do as they
> please, and those who survive will be left to contemplate the outcome.
> - 2011 Noam Chomsky
>
> http://heretothereideas.blogspot.com/
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