[ale] LISP to C

[Lightner, Jeff]

Thure, thatth eathy for you to thay...

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From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of Calvin Harrigan
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 11:54 AM
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
Subject: Re: [ale] LISP to C

As a person with a lisp, I find these comments to be inconthevable!

On 2/14/2012 11:37 AM, Pete Hardie wrote:
> Yeth!
>
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 11:20, Lightner, Jeff<JLightner at water.com>  wrote:
>> Shouldn't that be Lithp to Thee?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of mike at trausch.us
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 11:12 AM
>> To: ale at ale.org
>> Subject: Re: [ale] LISP to C
>>
>> On 02/14/2012 11:05 AM, Terry Bailey wrote:
>>> Is there a way to convert LISP source code into readable C source code?
>>
>> No.
>>
>> Well, probably not.
>>
>> You're talking about compilation, the only difference being that instead
>> of compiling straight to assembly language or an AST, you're generating C.
>>
>> For example (using Vala because I don't have a LISP-to-C compiler):
>> mbt at aloe /tmp/d $ ls -l
>> total 8
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 mbt mbt 520 Feb 14 11:10 hello.c
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 mbt mbt  94 Feb 14 11:09 hello.vala
>>
>>
>> Vala input:
>> =========================================================================
>> using GLib;
>>
>> public static int main(string[] args) {
>>         stdout.printf("Hello!\n");
>>         return(0);
>> }
>> =========================================================================
>>
>> C output:
>> =========================================================================
>> /* hello.c generated by valac 0.14.2, the Vala compiler
>>   * generated from hello.vala, do not modify */
>>
>> #include<glib.h>
>> #include<glib-object.h>
>> #include<stdlib.h>
>> #include<string.h>
>> #include<stdio.h>
>>
>> gint _vala_main (gchar** args, int args_length1);
>>
>>
>> gint _vala_main (gchar** args, int args_length1) {
>>         gint result = 0;
>>         FILE* _tmp0_;
>>         _tmp0_ = stdout;
>>         fprintf (_tmp0_, "Hello!\n");
>>         result = 0;
>>         return result;
>> }
>>
>>
>> int main (int argc, char ** argv) {
>>         g_type_init ();
>>         return _vala_main (argv, argc);
>> }
>> =========================================================================
>>
>> Trust me, it gets a *lot* worse from there.  Non-trivial programs become
>> *extremely* difficult to read.
>>
>> What are you trying to accomplish?  Could you follow the same model as
>> Vala, where you precompile the specialty language and only distribute
>> the pre-generated C?
>>
>>         --- Mike
>>
>> --
>> A man who reasons deliberately, manages it better after studying Logic
>> than he could before, if he is sincere about it and has common sense.
>>                                    --- Carveth Read, "Logic"
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