[ale] First look at Winders 8

[Jim Kinney]

On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Charles Shapiro
<hooterpincher at gmail.com> wrote:
> OTOH I have been struggling with Eclipse and Android for a couple of days
> now.  I've gotten it to believe that my "Hello World" app is actually a
> project, but it won't re-generate the R.java file, which is created from the
> various and sundry XML files which specify things like screens and strings.
> It's an ongoing wrangle, but I could sure use someone who really knows
> Eclipse, even though I've already created the application at the
> command-line.
>

Eclipse: when a luminous body is obscured from view.


> -- CHS
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 6:48 AM, Mike Harrison <cluon at geeklabs.com> wrote:
>>
>> Shapiro waxed poetic:
>>
>>> So heck, maybes this is the Way the World will Go, and us happy
>>> hard-workin' coders will merely be weird old fossils in a universe of
>>> sunglasses-wearing HTML writers.
>>
>>
>> In the real world, where bandwidth, CPU, memory,
>> and -long term- reliability and maintainability are issues,
>> fossils like us kick ass,
>>
>> I can get more done with just a shell on a far away linux system than most
>> "developers" can do using the latest IDE and kewl language of the week.
>>
>> 10 lines of perl can be a powerful thing.
>>
>> Three weeks ago I tought a young man to not trust his IDE with all the
>> supported options and commands. His code would not connect. It did not have:
>> CURLOPT_SSL_VERIFYPEER and CURLOPT_SSL_VERIFYHOST as options in his IDE, he
>> did not RTFM. While the people that built the drop down pick-list of PHP
>> options may have had valid reasons for not including these standard options,
>> he had become so dependant upon these crutches he was limited by them. He
>> had to connect to an internal IP address with a self-signed cert. Impossible
>> he said.. He was not comfortable with a shell on the production server, or
>> scp.. or.. or.. and was cutting and pasting code chunks from Eclipse into a
>> server side web based file browser.... But he was very bright.
>>
>> A recent email from Antony exposes that he is playing with ssh, scp,
>> Geany, jEdit and vi and learning to "get naked with code" in his words.
>> Antony is starting to understand where an IDE is useful, and that there
>> are sometimes more appropriate options. It is A tool, it should not be
>> your only tool.
>>
>> The role of us old fossils is to expose follies and teach.
>> Sometimes with a clue bat in our hands.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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