[ale] Google resets

[Lightner, Jeff]

I'm seeing this issue again today.

Just for the heck of it I found the Google.xml in C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\searchplugins and edited it to change all references for https to http instead and it works using http from the Firefox search plugin bar.

Since yesterday it had quit failing but was clearly redirecting from https to http during the period it was "working" it appears something is being changed either at Google or at Mozilla.   The actual URL it populates after I enter the search for the word "test" is shown below.   This  is what is getting reset.   (It does it regardless of what search word I input.)
https://www.google.com/search?q=test&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Also yesterday I'd tested https://www.google.com in IE 8 and it was also failing.

For my modified and working searchplugin today the URL shows up as:
http://www.google.com/search?q=test&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox&safe=active

Not asking for a solution - just providing the info as follow up in case anyone else is curious about it.





-----Original Message-----
From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of David Tomaschik
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 7:02 PM
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
Subject: Re: [ale] Google resets

On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Scott Plante <splante at insightsys.com> wrote:
> Note that in last week's discussion, the symptom was Google giving a
> message about possible abuse and requiring a CAPTCHA once. So
> connection resets wouldn't be related to that problem. Also, as an
> added data point, I didn't have any problems with my Google searches
> this morning. Going to "google.com" in Chrome redirects to 'https://"
> for me. This may be because I have a saved Google login, or that I'm signed into it in Chrome.
>
> Scott

http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/10/making-search-more-secure.html

tl;dr: Google redirects all search traffic for logged-in users to HTTPS.

David

(And, as Aaron pointed out, I do work for Google, but of course am only speaking for myself, and am not speaking as a representative of
Google.)


> From: "Jeff Lightner" <JLightner at water.com>
> To: "Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts" <ale at ale.org>
> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 11:26:50 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [ale] Google resets
>
> You really ought to read the entire email before you respond.  I made it
> clear I had already seen the earlier discussion.   My post was to see if
> anyone was having an issue TODAY and also a mini-rant against a
> practice that would cause this based on the reasoning given in that
> earlier discussion.
>
> Anyway it turns out my issue is that the default search engines in
> Firefox for some reason now uses https:// for Google rather than
> simple http:// - on doing the standard page in Firefox it works fine.
>
> Now the question is why does Firefox only have this https version when
> they clearly call it "experimental" in their discussion when you check
> for available search engines?  Another question would be does https
> normally work and it is just this part that Google is having issues with today?
> Anyone else able to get to Google via https?
>
> I'd actually seen similar issues a few weeks ago but didn't realize it was
> because their "default" was doing https://.   Since it was a side issue I
> didn't delve into it and later was no longer experiencing it.   This may be
> an issue with our internal web filter appliance.
>
>
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