[ale] pay rates vs. experience

[Matthew]

I hate it when someone who can't speak english coherently enough calls
me, I tell them to email me, I can't understand the accent.

On 4/30/12, Chuck Payne <terrorpup at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 5:11 AM, Matthew <simontek at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks dave, that was really insightful. I get tired of recruiters
>> sending me 3 month contracts, for places nowhere me. And a lot of
>> recruiters calls/emails are cheap/not paying well. I wish they would
>> leave me alone.
>>
>> On 4/30/12, David Ritchie <deritchie at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Lightner, Jeff <JLightner at water.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On the most recent posting on the Ale jobs list I had to laugh when I
>>>> saw
>>>> a
>>>> pay range of 65k-75k for everything THAT job entailed such as SAN
>>>> administration, managing 5000 domains in BIND just to name a couple.
>>>> Even
>>>> funnier was that it was 6 months CTP – Really?  They can’t figure out
>>>> whether someone is worthwhile in 3 months?   True you don’t really get
>>>> fully
>>>> up to speed in a new complex environment in less than 6 months but it
>>>> should
>>>> be obvious long before that whether you are CAPABLE of getting up to
>>>> speed
>>>> or not.
>>>
>>> Some headhunters use the term 'purple squirrel' to describe candidates
>>> that meet these qualifications.
>>> Needless to say, these jobs don't get filled quickly - purple
>>> squirrels are almost always already
>>> working, don't have to take contract jobs, and don't work for low $$.
>>> Headhunters hate these positions because they have to spend a lot of
>>> time working to fill them.
>>>
>>> Re wage rates -  there are employers that believe that because people
>>> building houses are out of work, that system administrators are in the
>>> same boat. not clueful....
>>>
>>> Often, when a person has a lot of qualfiication but not a lot of time
>>> in service, it is a warning that you
>>> really have to look at experience. Some  candidates writing down every
>>> item that was at the
>>> previous companies he/she worked for, whether or not they actually
>>> have any experience with the
>>> technology.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Dave Ritchie
>>>
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>
> Sad part is a lot of company won't meet you in the middle. It like
> this is rate, take or leave. What gets me, when you leave it. They act
> like, well we were offering you a house of gold.
>
> On recruiters, I am tired of getting the calls from a group that can't
> say my name correctly,  I know they are only calling me so they can
> say we can't fill the position, and get someone in here on a B-1 or
> H1B visa.
>
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