[ale] Sabayon

Jeff Hubbs jhubbslist at att.net
Sat Apr 21 19:44:50 EDT 2012


It amounts to very little over the useful life of the instance - and 
even less compared to the amount of energy it took to build and ship the 
computer.

On 4/21/12 7:01 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:
>
> Ah, gentoo. I'm waiting for the analysis looking at power consumed for 
> compiling everything vs power saved from having a highly optomised 
> system. How much time must elapse between updates to get a power or 
> time performance payoff.
> Not ragging on Jeff (or gentoo for that matter). I've just been doing 
> a fai amount of power analysis lately and that struck me as an 
> interesting question.
>
> On Apr 21, 2012 4:44 PM, "Jeff Hubbs" <jhubbslist at att.net 
> <mailto:jhubbslist at att.net>> wrote:
>
>     The similar package manager ("Portage") in Gentoo Linux has definitely
>     been one of its big draws for over a decade.
>
>     On 4/21/12 2:31 PM, arxaaron wrote:
>     > The current issue of Linux Format featured Sabayon in their
>     > Distrowatch segment. was very complimentary of
>     > Sabayon.  They liked that it come up in XFCE but
>     > also supported Cinnamon (the customized Gnome 3
>     > from the Mint distro) and Razor QT as optional
>     > packages.
>     >
>     > They are a plus on the "Ports" package manager as well.
>     >
>     >
>     > peace
>     > aaron
>     >
>     > On 2012/04/21, at 10:22 , Damon L. Chesser wrote:
>     >
>     >> On Fri, 2012-04-20 at 13:25 -0400, Scott Denlinger wrote:
>     >>> I agree with you about Debian, but do you have a particular
>     NEED to
>     >>> run Sid on
>     >>> your desktop? Surely you know that's Debian's unstable
>     version? Why
>     >>> not try
>     >>> testing? I'm running that, and it effectively is as reliable
>     as the
>     >>> "stable"
>     >>> distribution, and gets you more up to date software than the
>     stable
>     >>> distribution.
>     >>>
>     >>> Scott Denlinger
>     >> Scott,
>     >>
>     >> Yes, I do know that.  I run Sid because that is what the Ubers
>     do. At
>     >> least that is what I thought in 2000.  Sure it breaks, but it also
>     >> gets
>     >> fixed quicker then testing.  Nobody cares if testing breaks ;)
>     >>
>     >> My interest in Sabayon is this:  The Ports package system
>     rocks, and
>     >> it
>     >> rocks, and it also rocks.  Though, it IS nice, if you go to
>     >> Sourceforge
>     >> and find a cool project, they almost always have two packages,
>     >> source gz
>     >> and .deb.
>     >>
>     >> I do not want Ubuntu.  I hate Unity. While it (Ubuntu) works
>     (mostly)
>     >> you are out of luck if something you want does not work because the
>     >> project decided to take an unsupported tweak or non-upstream
>     adopted
>     >> "fix".  No such issue with Debian.  And if you run Sid, you are
>     always
>     >> head of Ubuntu.
>     >>
>     >> I guess after 12 years, you can just get that itch where you forget
>     >> about the one who brought you to the dance.
>     >>
>     >> Perhaps Linux users are not meant to be single distro users.  I
>     mean
>     >> it
>     >> might not even be natural?
>     >>
>     >> I considered FreeBSD, but I think they suck as a desktop
>     (because of
>     >> the
>     >> lack of current drivers for desktop things).  OpenSolaris,
>     Ilumos and
>     >> family look real, real interesting, but I think not as a desktop,
>     >> but as
>     >> a testbed (can anybody say ZFS, that is where all that
>     development is
>     >> happing at, and it is NOT being put back into solaris, as well
>     as some
>     >> really cool cloud things in a few opensolaris distros)
>     >>
>     >> Anyway, just a few things I have been pondering.
>     >>
>     >>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 08:50:08AM -0400, Chesser.Damon wrote:
>     >>>> Running Debian Sid for a desktop.  Getting tired (after 10+
>     years)
>     >>>> of
>     >>>> small breakages rotating through my desktop.  Been thinking about
>     >>>> Sabayon.  Not trying to start a religious war here (we all know
>     >>>> Debian
>     >>>> is the one true Linux way), but does anybody have experience with
>     >>>> this
>     >>>> distro?
>     >>> _______________________________________________
>     >> --
>     >> Damon
>     >> damon at damtek.com <mailto:damon at damtek.com>
>     >>
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