[ale] as promised/threatened, an overly long post with probably nothing of real importance

Jim Kinney jim.kinney at gmail.com
Wed May 4 00:18:10 EDT 2011


On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 11:28 PM, Pete Hardie <pete.hardie at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 23:03, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com> wrote:
> > For the past 10+ years ALE has been my extended family of geeks. The
> >
> > However, the aspect that concerns me the most is NO ONE COMPLAINED THAT I
> > ALONE SHUT DOWN THE LIST. I made a unilateral decision and EVERYONE on
> this
> > list just shrugged like sheep and went along. I got emails asking me to
> not
> > bail out but if I was going to they would step up. But not a single email
> > complaining that I took away their freedoms on this list. I expected
> 20-30
> > emails within minutes of the announcement of my action. That it never
> came
> > has indicated this is no longer the ALE from my memories but it is
> something
> > strange and far less satisfying.
>
> I take a slightly different tack on this - I think that we as ALE
> members know that any censorship of one list is hardly
> an affront to our collective speech - we can always create another
> list for whatever topic we feel needed.  Few of us are
> naive enough to think that this forum is the be-all and end-all of
> online discourse.  If the ale-list gets over-moderated, we can go
> elsewhere
> for our politics, and if we feel the need for Linux-related talk, we
> could create a new list.
>
> That said, I think we'd all prefer to keep this list, for no other
> reason that tradition and habit.
>
>
> Thanks, Pete. I like your take on the matter.


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