[ale] How do people deal with RHEL?

[Jim Kinney]

So you want it done your way and don't understand why RedHat could possible
put out a distro without package "foo" in it since _you_ use it but didn't
until 5 years after the version you run was released. And you don't want the
hassle of actually having to do something to get it installed.

I bet you bitch about "guberment taking over" too.

As a distribution is a collection of packages that are supposed to work
together, a package not in that collection simply means you have to deal
with it. ntop is not a commonly used tool according the the people who made
the decision at RedHat to leave it out. Is it useful? To you, yes. So now
you know that most other RHEL admins don't use it. If they did, it would be
part of RHEL5 (it isn't)  or RHEL6 (it still isn't in it). But some people
do use it and made it work for you if you use the EPEL repository. It's
still NOT available for RHEL4 as most every admin is running away from it.
The non-security changes in nearly everything since then are worth the
effort to migrate.

http://www.apple.com may have the happy place solution for you.

<total snark mode>

It must truly suck to be in your situation. Stuck with a bazillion year old
distro and incapable of upgrading and then no one on ALE gives a crap enough
to provide FREE help and suggestions because what you really want is for
someone to compile it for you and hand you an rpm to install. My advice:
STAY AWAY FROM GENTOO!!!

and you probably won't like slackware either

To paraphrase an idiot who keeps getting media coverage "Admin up".

Several other people have jumped in your feces since I started writing this
reply and they have let you know clearly that your tone in your responses
was pretty nasty. So I'm just going to tell you this: go back and reread
this thread from start to finish and pay careful attention to the tone of
voice you use in your replies. Communication skills are usually pretty
crappy in the geek realms and everyone could benefit from some better
writing skills. Try writing poetry for a while.

On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 2:17 PM, James Sumners <james.sumners at gmail.com>wrote:

> I suppose that is one way to deal with the lack of packages. But it
> does sort of defeat the point of using a distribution, and adds more
> work for me. And that is the very thing I was trying to avoid by
> installing ntop. I didn't want to re-invent the wheel just to get an
> overview of the network usage on my server(s).
>
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Damon L. Chesser <damon at damtek.com>
> wrote:
> > You use a dev server for that and
> > make an rpm.  Perhaps this would fix your issue?  Make an RPM of ntop to
> > match your 5 servers software.
>
>
>
> --
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>
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