[ale] ranting about new Ubuntu UI

Tue Jun 21 10:16:59 EDT 2011

There is a control that adjusts the size of the icons, but I think you 
will have to download it.  I have not sorted out yet how to add 
permanent buttons to that launch bar..

On 06/20/2011 06:05 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:
> I feel your pain brother from the Fedora 15 side of the WTF!!!! were 
> they thinking when they designed THIS interface.
>
> Apparently both Ubuntu and Fedora UI designers are twins about the age 
> of 14 whose friends all got iPads for gifts.
>
> My 12 year old son came to complain that the new filemanager is so 
> stupid he can't drop a new downloaded file into a shortcut bookmark 
> using drag-n-drop. He has to right-click on the bookmark, select open 
> in new window, then drag to the new window.
>
> He and I both will be converting desktops and laptops to Scientific 
> Linux 6 ASAP.
>
> As RedHat uses Fedora as a testbed for future RHEL products, I suspect 
> that F15 will hit the trashcan and the gnome3 crap will get cleaned up 
> or have functionality/useability/workflow concepts added back in 
> pretty quickly.
>
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Ron Frazier 
> <atllinuxenthinfo at c3energy.com <mailto:atllinuxenthinfo at c3energy.com>> 
> wrote:
>
>     Hi guys.  I've been away from the list for a while, so I don't know if
>     this has been already discussed.  I also apologize to anyone I offend
>     who may totally disagree with me.  No offense is intended.
>
>     I decided to do some digital house keeping and download and make
>     CD's of
>     the most recent Ubuntu ISO's.  After burning the CD's, I wanted to
>     verify that each CD was burned correctly.  I looked up the appropriate
>     MD5sum command and saved it in a text file on the hard drive.  Then, I
>     booted up the Ubuntu 11.04 desktop CD and clicked Try Ubuntu to get it
>     started.  WOW!  I was freaked out because the UI was totally different
>     from 10.04 which I'm used to.  From the podcasts, I knew this was
>     happening, but hadn't seen it.  Now, I'll admit I'm biased toward
>     what I
>     know.  And, I'll admit that I only spent 20-30 minutes looking at it.
>     However, my basic first impression is ... hate it, hate it, hate it,
>     hate it, hate it, hate it.  It seems everyone is trying to redesign
>     their operating system to operate from the point of view of a tablet
>     based touch screen.  However, they seem to be throwing mouse based,
>     large screen devices under the bus.  I think that's incredibly stupid.
>     To do the CD integrity check that I wanted to do, I had to start the
>     text editor, copy the command I'd saved, start a terminal window, and
>     paste the command into that.  What the @#$%$#$ is wrong with a
>     stinking
>     menu?!  It took me 10 minutes just to find out how to start the text
>     editor and the terminal with the new system.  Instead of menu,
>     accessories, text editor; it's now menu, more applications, see all 75
>     apps, scroll scroll scroll all the huge icons down the screen to find
>     the "T" section, then click text editor.  Now that I know how to
>     do it,
>     it's not THAT hard.  But what's the point.  It definitely takes more
>     clicks and mouse movements than it did before.  From the podcasts I
>     listen to, It looks like Windows 8 will be doing something similar
>     with
>     the UI.  If so, I think it's stupid on their part too.  Why can't the
>     designers just realize that desktop / laptop computers and tablets /
>     smart phones need different UI's.  I wouldn't try to put all the
>     controls from a motorcycle on a car, and I wouldn't try to put all the
>     controls from a car on a motorcycle.
>
>     Here are some other things I hate at first glance.
>
>     * There is a huge bar of icons on the left.  It seems to be a quick
>     launch bar and a task bar combined.  I'm OK with that concept.  I've
>     been keeping my task bar vertical anyway.  What I hate is that the
>     icons
>     are enormous.  They take up a huge amount of vertical space.
>      Therefore,
>     if you have 5 quick launch icons open and 5 apps open, then the
>     task bar
>     is full.  I don't know what happens after that.  It may be possible to
>     customize it, but there is no obvious way, like right clicking it.
>      The
>     other thing I don't like is that it's not obvious what are quick
>     launch
>     icons and what are running applications.  The system seems to put a
>     small arrow next to applications, but I don't think it's very
>     effective.
>
>     * The traditional Gnome "panels" seem to be gone.  Or, if they're
>     there,
>     there's not obvious way to access or customize them, including the top
>     panel that appears by default.
>
>     * The APPLICATION menu bar (for the text editor, for example)
>     appears in
>     the top of the screen panel OF THE OS when you roll your mouse up
>     there
>     and disappears when you roll your mouse away.  It does not appear
>     in the
>     window for the application.  Why the @$$%%$$# do the designers think
>     that I want my APPLICATION MENU to be married to the OS DISPLAY?!
>      And,
>     even if I did, why the $%#$$##$ do the designers think I want it
>     vanishing every time I move away from it?!  Stupid.  Stupid.  Stupid.
>
>     * Finally, there is no scroll bar on long display items and no up and
>     down arrows.  If you roll your mouse over where those features should
>     be, a scroll device which can be dragged or clicked magically appears.
>     Stupid.  Stupid.  Stupid.
>
>     Again, no offense intended.  Others may love these features just as
>     passionately as I hate them.  Anyway, I'm definitely NOT installing
>     Ubuntu 11.04 or Windows 8 (when it's available) unless I extensively
>     test in a VM first.  Probably, I'll just stick with Ubuntu 10.04 and
>     Windows Vista or Windows 7 until they stop patching them.  That should
>     be about 2 more years for Ubuntu and 7 more years for Windows.
>
>     Sincerely,
>
>     Ron
>
>
>     --
>
>     (PS - If you email me and don't get a quick response, you might
>     want to
>     call on the phone.  I get about 300 emails per day from alternate
>     energy
>     mailing lists and such.  I don't always see new messages very
>     quickly.)
>
>     Ron Frazier
>
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