[ale] make some apps/scripts run as root

Wed Feb 23 13:05:23 EST 2011

See we dont want the Websphere to be running as a service.  This Websphere
is for development and for devleopers.

We dont want to be run as a service.  Inface we are going out of the way to
make it NOT run as a service.

The IDE controls the start and stop of the server based on our development
needs.

Is that possible to run it in a non-service mode and also can I just do
chmod 777 on the entire folder I should be set.

-Narahari

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com> wrote:

> Websphere is a service. It should be run from a startup script in
> /etc/init.d (see man chkconfig). The normal install will do it for you
> and all you have to do is start the service.
>
> The ide will require a PATH change most likely or at the least a path
> to the runable binary. If the binary is not already 755 then sudo
> chmod 755 foo will fix that.
>
> On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Narahari 'n' Savitha
> <savithari at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I installed using sudo both Websphere7 and MyEclipseIDE to /opt....
> folders.
> >
> > Now its allworking fine.  I want to be able to be able to allow regular
> user
> > to run the stuff.
> >
> > Is it possible that way or, I need to set some mask or umask or change
> > permissions etc., ?
> >
> > -Narahari
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> That's the way it works in Linuxland as well. Admin installs
> >> application and users have access to use it.
> >>
> >> The vm stuff will be static - i.e. a single user login unless you have
> >> some ldap/ad stuff setup inside the vm.
> >>
> >> So you create a vm and install as root the apps you need setting stuff
> >> to run on boot as needed. Now create a simple user inthe vm with a
> >> disposable password, login and verify that user can do what is
> >> required. Then you shutdown and copy the vm space. Each developer then
> >> has their own vmware space and they import the vm you made to their
> >> space. Once they start your vm, the switch into it, login as the
> >> preset user and they're back to work.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 7:05 AM, Narahari 'n' Savitha
> >> <savithari at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Here is what I want to do.
> >> >
> >> > VM = VMWare Server
> >> > VM Inside = Ubuntu 10.10 64 bit
> >> >
> >> > I want to install Websphere 7 inside the VM.
> >> > Then I want to install the MyEclipse IDE.
> >> >
> >> > Then I want to kick start the WebSphere server from inside the IDE (it
> >> > does
> >> > this anyways).
> >> >
> >> > Once it is all up and runing I plan to distribute the VM to our
> >> > developers,
> >> > so we dont have to worry about configuration of IDE's to  new folks.
> >> >
> >> > If this can be accomplished as a reg user, I am all for it.
> >> >
> >> > I thougt that if I do this as superuser then it might be easy to
> install
> >> > once and every one gets it.
> >> > What equivalnce I am looking for is, in Windoze world the LAN admin
> >> > installs
> >> > Word as an admin and the next thing you know all users who
> >> > login to that box get Word as an application and thats what I am
> trying
> >> > to
> >> > accomplish.
> >> >
> >> > -Narahari
> >> > On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Michael B. Trausch <mike at trausch.us>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 14:34 -0500, Narahari 'n' Savitha wrote:
> >> >> > How do I run a few scripts like my IDE launcher, the Websphere
> server
> >> >> > etc., to run as sudo aka root without prompting me for the password
> >> >> > each time ?
> >> >>
> >> >> As Mike W. pointed out, there is little need to run such things as
> the
> >> >> superuser.
> >> >>
> >> >> If you need to start a dæmon that needs to listen on a privileged
> port,
> >> >> there are a few ways that you can do this.  You can grant the
> >> >> approriate
> >> >> capability to the user account that runs the software (or to the
> >> >> software itself, using filesystem capabilities), though this is not a
> >> >> universally supported method of operation (why, I'm not sure).
> >> >>
> >> >> The other means would be to have a small (and I mean *tiny*) program
> >> >> that runs setuid root and does ABSOLUTELY nothing other than to
> acquire
> >> >> the listening socket, drop root privileges permanently, and then exec
> >> >> the target program.  That might require a patch to the target program
> >> >> so
> >> >> that it can take the listening socket file descriptor either on a
> >> >> well-known file descriptor or via a command line option that can pass
> >> >> in
> >> >> the fd number.
> >> >>
> >> >> There are more clever means to do these sorts of things, as well.
>  They
> >> >> are, however, left as an exercise to the reader.
> >> >>
> >> >> > Also how do you start any gui app minimized, I need to run VMWare
> >> >> > tools as root and minimized.
> >> >>
> >> >> That depends on the toolkit that the program in question is built to
> >> >> run
> >> >> with.  For GTK+ based software, I am not aware of any such
> >> >> functionality.
> >> >>
> >> >>        --- Mike
> >> >>
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