[ale] Fstab fails

Mon Aug 8 15:48:17 EDT 2011

Jim..

I am almost sure that a pull from the clients makes more sense than a push,
but as usual I am open to suggestions.
Why put the config files into a git or svn repo? Why not serve them directly
fro the actual files.  I have been reading about puppet for a couple of
hours and sorting out what would be useful here.  It seems hugely useful,
especially if I am pushing out configurations on a larger scale than I
currently am doing.

I have a test script that uses rsync to pull the files off the server, now
that I am using crontab better, I can use cron to set the script to run once
an hour.  I could use puppet to call the cron job that runs that on the
client side, but rsync requires ssh password for the user.  I do not
understand how to set up puppet to pull the file-structure directly, but I
think it would mean I didn't need the rsync script or the cron job, which
would save a lot of lash-up, and wouldn't have to use an rsync daemon on the
server.

-Wolf

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com> wrote:

> I would look at putting the config files in a subversion or git repo and
> pushing out with repo sync or rsync or using puppet or cfengine to handle
> this.
> On Aug 4, 2011 1:49 PM, "Wolf Halton" <wolf.halton at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Oh, ok.. Thanks,
> > I have not used automount before. Would you feel safe mounting a critical
> > directory with it - not necessarily a remote /home directory?
> > The nfs share I have up is holding the config files for a web app. This
> was
> > our solution to having to update the config files on several servers in
> the
> > event that they needed to be edited. Without it, my test box has a copy
> of
> > the source on it, but it is plain that this failsafe didn't work all that
> > well.
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Lightner, Jeff <JLightner at water.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Right – Avery’s email was saying you could use automount rather than
> >> fstab. With automount the filesystem doesn’t mount at boot time but does
> >> mount the first time something tries to use it which should be long
> after
> >> boot.****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> Automount also means the filesystem gets unmounted automatically when
> not
> >> in use and remounted when used later. One nice side to this is that if
> the
> >> exporting server goes down and it isn’t currently NFS mounted on your
> server
> >> it doesn’t cause problems like hard NFS mounts do. ****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> *From:* ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] *On Behalf Of
> *Wolf
> >> Halton
> >> *Sent:* Thursday, August 04, 2011 12:23 PM
> >> *To:* Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
> >>
> >> *Subject:* Re: [ale] Fstab fails
> >> ****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> In my case, the system is coming up but just without the nfs directory
> >> mounted. ****
> >>
> >> On Aug 4, 2011 9:03 AM, "Lightner, Jeff" <JLightner at water.com> wrote:
> >> > Good idea.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ________________________________
> >> > From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of
> >> Avery Ceo
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 7:42 PM
> >> > To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts; transam at verysecurelinux.com
> >> > Subject: Re: [ale] Fstab fails
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Have you considered the automounter? By waiting until the first
> attempt
> >> to read a file before mounting the share, you might avoid your startup
> >> issue, and you would get remounts after a lost connection for free if
> there
> >> is a network blip.
> >> > On Aug 3, 2011 6:47 PM, "Bob Toxen" <transam at verysecurelinux.com
> <mailto:
> >> transam at verysecurelinux.com>> wrote:
> >> >> This still will hang in startup (though you'll probably be in
> >> >> multiuser).
> >> >>
> >> >> Specify timeouts in case NFS cannot start, e.g., the server is down.
> >> >>
> >> >> Bob Toxen
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, Aug 03, 2011 at 04:21:47PM -0400, Andrew Wade wrote:
> >> >>> With NFS, I set fstab
> >> >>>
> >> >>> server:/ifs/fs02 /ifs/fs02 nfs bg,noauto,rsize=8192,wsize=8192 0 0
> >> >>>
> >> >>> *note the noauto, this tells it to not automount. If it tries to
> >> automount
> >> >>> and is unable, your server will stall in startup. So you put this
> entry
> >> in
> >> >>> /etc/rc.local:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> mount /ifs/fs02
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Also check to make sure that nfs and portmap services are started
> upon
> >> boot
> >> >>> time.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> That way, the server starts up and then mounts the nfs under
> rc.local
> >> (where
> >> >>> if the nfs share hangs, it would not affect the normal system
> startup).
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Andrew
> >> >>> RHCE
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 5:50 PM, planas <jslozier at gmail.com<mailto:
> >> jslozier at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> > **
> >> >>> > Wolf
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Could configuration be faulty, I asked about setting an internal
> ntfs
> >> drive
> >> >>> > awhile ago and I got this link from Ubuntu:
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > It has links to more network configuration.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > On Tue, 2011-08-02 at 14:27 -0400, Wolf Halton wrote:
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Can you think of any reason why fstab would not be read on reboot.
> >> Ubuntu
> >> >>> > lucid have an nfs share that was not mounted automagically when I
> >> rebooted
> >> >>> > the client machine. Broke a bunch of stuff.
> >> >>> > Wolf
> >> >>> > PS mount -a picked up and mounted the nfs directory.
> >> >>> >
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