[ale] OT: gas going up this weekend

[The Don Lachlan]

On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 08:51:24AM -0400, Lightner, Jeff wrote:
> What's really obscene is the price of diesel.   Not so long ago diesel
> on average was cheaper than 87 octane gas.   Some people even bought
> diesel cars because they were cheaper to run.   Somewhere along the line
> the oil companies realized they could get a lot more money by raising
> the price of diesel to be as high as premium gas.  Most people wouldn't
> howl because they weren't smart enough to realize that was costing them
> even if they didn't drive a diesel car.  Nearly everything you buy ends
> up being on a diesel powered truck somewhere along the line.   (Even if
> shipped by train it has to be transshipped from the freight depot to
> final destination for most things that aren't being delivered to
> manufacturing plants/mills with their own rail.)

Historically, diesel has been more expensive than 87 octane gasoline. There
was a brief period where regular gasoline prices were insanely high and
diesel was cheaper, but that didn't last long.

Regular, premium and diesel prices:
http://www.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=EMM_EPMR_PTE_NUS_DPG&f=W
http://www.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=EMM_EPMP_PTE_NUS_DPG&f=W
http://www.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=EMD_EPD2D_PTE_NUS_DPG&f=W

Looking at the past year, it's been between the price of regular and
premium. Diesel prices fluctuate similarly to other gas prices - if it's
occassionally more expensive than premium or cheaper than regular, it's
because the production processes are slightly different. We're also talking
about periods where gas prices fluctuate wildly month to month and year to
year. It's ALL expensive. 

-L

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of
> Derek Atkins
> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 8:24 AM
> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
> Subject: Re: [ale] OT: gas going up this weekend
> 
> Tom Freeman <tfreeman at intel.digichem.net> writes:
> 
> >> FWIW, Aviation Fuel (100LL AvGas) does still have T-E-L in it.
> >>
> >> -derek
> >>    
> > Thanks for that bit. I don't indulge in private aviation, so I'm not 
> > surprised at my ignorance. Still, how much avgas is used vs.
> automobile 
> > fuel?
> 
> Oh, much much less.  I don't have numbers offhand, but I would guess
> much less than 1%.
> 
> -derek
> 
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