[ale] OT: gas going up this weekend

Fri Apr 29 09:46:29 EDT 2011

And related to this is this:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-20044720-501465.html

http://www.popsci.com/cars/article/2011-03/shockwave-generating-wave-discs-could-replace-cars-internal-combustion-engines

This has me excited in that it would make electric cars viable.  Electric car in the vein of Diesel electric trains.  Use the shock wave to gen. electricity that run the wheel motors.

Damon Chesser
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From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of Greg Freemyer
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 9:06 AM
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Subject: Re: [ale] OT: gas going up this weekend

You can thank the Feds for that too I think.

They put in new low sulfur rules for diesel a while back.  Apparently
those rules caused diesel to cost more than gas.  I don't know the
details.

OTOH, there's a new continuous combustion engine in R&D somewhere.  If
it ever gets to market, its supposed to be much more efficient.  I
think the truck fleet is the target market for it.

I don't remember where I read about that, but they already have
smaller versions working in a lab somewhere.

Greg

On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Lightner, Jeff <jlightner at water.com> wrote:
> What's really obscene is the price of diesel.   Not so long ago diesel
> on average was cheaper than 87 octane gas.   Some people even bought
> diesel cars because they were cheaper to run.   Somewhere along the line
> the oil companies realized they could get a lot more money by raising
> the price of diesel to be as high as premium gas.  Most people wouldn't
> howl because they weren't smart enough to realize that was costing them
> even if they didn't drive a diesel car.  Nearly everything you buy ends
> up being on a diesel powered truck somewhere along the line.   (Even if
> shipped by train it has to be transshipped from the freight depot to
> final destination for most things that aren't being delivered to
> manufacturing plants/mills with their own rail.)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of
> Derek Atkins
> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 8:24 AM
> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
> Subject: Re: [ale] OT: gas going up this weekend
>
> Tom Freeman <tfreeman at intel.digichem.net> writes:
>
>>> FWIW, Aviation Fuel (100LL AvGas) does still have T-E-L in it.
>>>
>>> -derek
>>>
>> Thanks for that bit. I don't indulge in private aviation, so I'm not
>> surprised at my ignorance. Still, how much avgas is used vs.
> automobile
>> fuel?
>
> Oh, much much less.  I don't have numbers offhand, but I would guess
> much less than 1%.
>
> -derek
>
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