[ale] GParted & unallocated space
Jim Philips
briarpatch.jim at gmail.com
Sun Sep 26 15:53:00 EDT 2010
I tried again to see if things would work for me the way they did for you.
No luck. The newly freed space was listed as "unusable". I could neither
format it nor set a mount point and if I tried to move forward, the
installation complained there was no mount point.
I also tried installing FC13. FC13's partitioning program never successfully
shrank sda2, where Windows resides. It saw all partitions as 0 megabytes.
I'm beginning to feel really screwed here.
On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 1:38 AM, Richard Faulkner <rfaulkner at 34thprs.org>wrote:
> Yes. I did install Ubuntu 9.10 to unallocated space without
> pre-formatting. I did not attempt to format it in advance...I did that step
> in the installer by selecting the option to install the OS to the largest
> unallocated space. Ubuntu created an extended partition and two logical
> partitions. Since the end-user is new to Linux I did a simple single
> partition installation on ext4 with a swap partition (trying to make it
> easier for them to learn...will do upgrades in the future). This is a
> common way that I install for dual booting systems for new users and have
> never had major issues with it. The last build I did this with was last
> weekend and was an IBM MT-M 8183-CTO SFF desktop system. Runs like a dream
> with the only issue being I was having a hard-time getting DVD movies to
> play in Movie Player.
>
> I don't know if there has been changes to the installer on 10.10 and
> believe the "Install to largest unallocated space" is an option in 10.04.
> It is an option on the Live CD for 9.10. I do not have Vista or 7 and
> really have not kept-up with the fine points of changes since XP...and to
> tell you the truth I really don't want to know. I'm more interested in
> spending my time in *nix than M$ so I cannot tell you what will happen when
> doing a tandem installation using 7. I would expect no major issues....
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From*: Jim Philips <briarpatch.jim at gmail.com<Jim%20Philips%20%3cbriarpatch.jim at gmail.com%3e>
> >
> *To*: rfaulkner at 34thprs.org, Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run
> Linux! <ale at ale.org<Atlanta%20Linux%20Enthusiasts%20-%20Yes!%20We%20run%20Linux!%20%3cale at ale.org%3e>
> >
> *Subject*: Re: [ale] GParted & unallocated space
> *Date*: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 21:00:54 -0400
>
> Let me get this straight: Are you saying Ubuntu installed to unallocated
> space without formatting? I couldn't install, because GParted refused to
> format that space.
>
> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Richard Faulkner <rfaulkner at 34thprs.org>
> wrote:
>
> I've shrank Windows partitions with GParted successfully -- I just make
> sure I run chkdsk on M$ to make sure Bill is "happy". If you can
> successfully resize the partition and create the appropriate "unallocated
> space" then I wouldn't worry about formatting that space -- I'd just install
> Ubuntu to the unallocated space and be done with it. This is exactly what I
> did last weekend on a build for a buddy who is dual-booting XP and 9.10 and
> he loves it! So much so he can't imagine why in the world anyone would want
> to use Windows when you have Linux to choose from!! : )
>
> The scenario under-which I did this was: WD 160GB HDD "System C:" 40GB
> NTFS; "Storage D:" 40GB NTFS and the remainder as Unallocated Space for
> Ubuntu 9.10 to install to (which it did flawlessly!) I had attempted an
> installation of 64 Studio on this box after installing XP but the whole
> build got corrupt during the late phases of the install of Studio (boot
> loader crapped-out). During that installation the "Storage" drive got
> repartitioned to 56GB from the original 40GB I specified so I used GParted
> on the Live CD I have for 9.10 and parred it back to 40GB. I then nuked the
> ext3 partitioning from the botched 64 Studio installation, rebooted to M$
> and ran chkdsk on D: and confirmed all was well. Then back to my Live CD
> and did the installation on the Unallocated Space. Viola!
>
> Note: I did not format the unallocated space prior to Linux
> installation...I did that during the installation.
>
> Fly low, beat the radar and may the wind at your back not be your own....R
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From*: Jim Philips <briarpatch.jim at gmail.com<Jim%20Philips%20%3cbriarpatch.jim at gmail.com%3e>
> >
> *Reply-to*: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux! <ale at ale.org>
> *To*: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux! <ale at ale.org<Atlanta%20Linux%20Enthusiasts%20-%20Yes!%20We%20run%20Linux!%20%3cale at ale.org%3e>
> >
>
>
> *Subject*: Re: [ale] GParted & unallocated space
> *Date*: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 12:25:55 -0400
>
> I went back to Windows and tried to format the "unallocated space". It
> wouldn't let me. So, I used the Windows partition tool to regrow the Windows
> partition to its maximum size and reclaim that space. I then tried to shrink
> that partition again, thinking I could format the empty space as ntfs. When
> I went to shrink, Windows complained that tghe partition could not be shrunk
> because it was corrupted and I needed to run chkdsk to fix the problem. I
> ran chkdsk twice, but I s'm still not being allowed to shrink that partition
> in Windows. I could shrink it again in GParted, but I will end up again with
> "unallocated space" that GParted refuses to format. This is getting to be
> less fun as it goes along.
>
> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:43 AM, justin caratzas <
> justin.caratzas at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I've seen people advocate with either choice for shrinking the windows
> partition. I just went through a similar situation where I wanted to
> keep the Windows installation on a new laptop (Civ 5 ftw) and install
> Archlinux to occupy half of the hard drive. Unfortunately for me, the
> archlinux installer didn't like the partition that windows had setup
> as a result of the shrinking, something about cylinder boundaries and
> such. GParted wasn't working either, giving a similar message when I
> tried to just give archlinux the large partition to work with. One
> challenge was all the partitions that Lenovo had in place (recovery,
> installation, etc). What I ended up having to do is manually
> partition the unallocated space in GParted, and only make the
> archlinux installer assign mount points, and it seemed fine with that.
>
> As far as the space being unformatted, I think I ran into that
> situation and got around it by formatting the partition as NTFS in
> windows, and then simply reformatting once GParted was able to see it
> upon reboot.
>
> -- justin
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Damon L. Chesser <damon at damtek.com>
> wrote:
> > On Sat, 2010-09-25 at 09:58 -0400, Jim Philips wrote:
> >> I bought a new laptop and I'm trying to install Ubuntu on it. The firs
> >> time around, I ended up destroying the Windows installation (which I
> >> did not want to do). The second time I went in and looked for the
> >> "side by side" option for installing from the live CD. It wasn't
> >> there. So, I decided to try GParted. I shrank the nearly 475 gigs
> >> dedicated to Windows in half. After that, I am left with 235 gigs of
> >> unallocated space. The Ubuntu installer will neither format nor
> >> install to that space. Gparted won't format it either. So, from where
> >> I am now, there is nothing I can do with that space either with the
> >> Ubuntu installer or GParted. The "Format to" option is just grayed out
> >> in GParted. I don't remember my last install being this hard.
> >>
> >> This is a Windows 7, 64 bit laptop.
> >
> > It is desirable to "shrink" the partition from with-in windows. Right
> > click on "my computer" select "manage" go down to "disk manager". I
> > don't remember the exact thing to do, but from there (perhaps by right
> > clicking menu on the disk partition?) you can select to change the size
> > of the partition. Give that a try. I have never "seen" the situation
> > you are describing, however, I have broke windows 7 by NOT using windows
> > built in disk manager to change the size.
> >
> > HTH
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