[ale] Bad bad feeling here...

[Greg Freemyer]

Jim,

I'm not sure what your saying, but I think its well established that
Novell had IP that thwarted the SCO litigation.

That IP has to either stay with Novell which will be owned by
Attachmate or it goes to CPTN Holdings.

(Was that IP patents or copyright?  If patents, I thought they only
lasted 20 years or less, so how old are they?)

As to what CPTN (MS) bought, it is suspected to be Word Perfect
patents.  There is an ongoing Novell / MS dispute about them.

And in the last big Novell / MS dispute, MS paid out $536 million to
Novell for Netware patent infringement.

http://news.cnet.com/Microsoft-to-pay-Novell-536-million-settlement/2100-1014_3-5442389.html

So it is at least a logical argument the MS wanted to buy the Word
Perfect patents and bring that issue to a close.

Greg

On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com> wrote:
> So UNIX copyrights go _with_ Novell and become de facto property of
> Attachmate is what I read of this.
>
> That is FAR better than the other "investment group" acquiring those
> copyrights.
>
> So what did Novell sell to CPTN Holdings? M. De Icaza? </snark>
>
> On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Greg Freemyer <greg.freemyer at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Mike,
>>
>> I believe in response to thoughts like yours, Novell put a press
>> release that says:
>>
>> "Novell will continue to own Novell’s UNIX copyrights following
>> completion of the merger as a subsidiary of Attachmate."
>>
>> http://www.novell.com/company/ir/message.html
>>
>> But that is basically all it says, so it is impossible to know what is
>> going on.
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Michael H. Warfield <mhw at wittsend.com>
>> wrote:
>> > This may just be my innate over active paranoia kicking in but this just
>> > can not be good.  Not at all.
>> >
>> > Novell has agreed to be bought out by Attachmate, which is, in and of
>> > itself, not a bad thing (Novell needed to be picked up by someone).
>> >
>> > http://www.boston.com/business/ticker/2010/11/novell_agrees_t_1.html
>> >
>> > The devil is in the details.  Attachmate gets and will run "Novell and
>> > SUSE" but...
>> >
>> > "Novell also said it has entered into an agreement for the concurrent
>> > sale of certain intellectual property assets to CPTN Holdings LLC, a
>> > consortium of technology companies organized by Microsoft Corp., for
>> > $450 million in cash..."
>> >
>> > Take the current Novell and subtract off Novell the brand (presuming
>> > Netware included) and SUSE and what's left (worth a cool $450 million in
>> > cash)?  The only things I can think of would be the Old UNIX licenses
>> > and properties, which were at the heart of the SCO litigation until
>> > Novell blew the wheels off from under SCO.  Where fore goes UnixWare.
>> >
>> > I've got a bad feeling this is not going to end well.  I may be wrong
>> > and I really REALLY hope I'm wrong, but I just gotta a baaad feeling
>> > Abbot (cue walking dead mummy).
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Mike
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