[ale] [ALE-jobs] Opportunity for Windows Admin in PA/TN

[Greg Freemyer]

On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 11:47 PM, arxaaron <arxaaron at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 2010/11/10, at 22:10 , Mike Harrison wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 10 Nov 2010, Sparr wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Mike Harrison <cluon at geeklabs.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Would you rather give one of "us" Linux/FOSS aware
>>>> people a chance at a paying job....
>>>> or one of "them" M$-centric fanbois?
>>>
>>> By that logic, *any* job posting is relevant to this board, almost
>>> all
>>> of them more so than a MS job posting.
>>
>> I just hired a kid who's been working the Deli counter at Wal-Mart..
>> Still
>> is on weekends. But he can use vi, diff, and write some basic code.
>> He's
>> learning quickly. While I'm not so sure the Wal-Mart deli job
>> posting is
>> apropos to an ALE-Jobs or other technology list, I'm glad he had the
>> job
>> until he found employment as a Linux sysadmin.
>>
>> In 2004 I made more money as a welder than a Linux geek.
>> Still have a dead spot in my right eye from it ("instant" on welding
>> mask
>> failed) The message I got that work from a posting to a Linux list and
>> kept me fed for 6 months. (I made special brackets for antenna
>> mounts).
>>
>> In 2005, I took a job that includes babysitting 14 2000/2003 windows
>> iMail
>> and IIS servers. I converted most of them to a single Linux server. I
>> could not have done that if I had not taken the job.
>>
>> It is far easier to convert the unwashed ignaorant masses from within
>> the castle walls, than from across the moat.
>
> The point in this is not a question of whether working
> in odd jobs, tech oriented or otherwise, MafiaSoft centric
> or not, is better for someone than not working at all.
>
> The question is whether postings for those odd jobs
> are appropriate to the ALE-jobs list, and the answer is
> that they aren't. A posting for a welding gig or a babysitting
> job or a windisease-only admin position are all equally
> inappropriate to the context of the ALE-jobs list.
>
> If someone wants to (or is willing to) be a welder or a
> babysitter or an accomplice to convicted corporate
> criminals to pay the bills, there are many resources
> available for finding work in those arenas. There is
> no reason or justification for ALE to dilute its services
> by trying to be a redundant echo of those resources.
>
> The point and purpose of the ALE-jobs list is to be a
> clear resource for finding employment and employees
> in arenas relating to some level of Linux, Unix, or
> FLOSS administration or development.  If the job
> description doesn't include _something_ relating
> to those, then it is clearly and simply inappropriate
> and needs to be directed elsewhere.  Otherwise we
> might as well label it the ALE-craigslist and start
> posting service offers from prostitutes and
> employment offers from pimps because the list
> will have no differentiating or specific purpose
> at that point.
>
> peace
> aaron

I'm reaching for my bible.  Trying to figure out which of the 7 seals
corresponds with me agreeing with Aaron.

Doesn't matter much, all of them presage the end of the world!