[ale] VOTING ALERT: Protect Your Freedom to Work!

[Greg Freemyer]

At least get in the ballpark when you want to claim it's the Iraq war
the blew up the deficit.

Here's a few facts to help you bitch more accurately:

Current cumulative cost of the Iraq war.
$740B    ie. Less than last year's stimulus plan.
http://costofwar.com/

Current US Debt ~ $13.5 T
http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Debt incurred in 4 years with Pelosi as speaker of the house (Jan 2007)
  ~ $5 T     (I don't have a source handy.)

Debt incurred in the 200+ years prior to Pelosi
  ~ $8.5 T   (based on above)

Debt as of 2000 election
  ~ $5.5 T  http://www.usdebtclock.org/2000.html

Debt incurred in the 6 years of pure republican leadership 2000-2006
   ~$3 T   (based on above)

Debt incurred in the 2 years of pure democratic leadership 2008-2010
   ~ $3T  (Today less http://www.usdebtclock.org/2008.html)


I don't like any of it, but saying the Iraq war was a $10T problem is
just ignorant.

Greg (the spending stops now) Freemyer



On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 4:07 PM, dude-aaron-omy <aaron at pd.org> wrote:
>
> On 2010/11/02, at 10:18 , Jim Kinney wrote:
>> good point of the reversed language between the actual
>> bill and the voters view. That's a bad thing to have happen
>> and it certainly appears deliberately deceptive.
>
> Which should be reason enough in and of itself to vote it down.
>
> Likewise, seeing how every vacuous teabagger talking point
> and every repub-lie-con party plank is either blatant, self
> destructive, incendiary insanity or a repetitively perpetuated
> 40 year old fraud of political misdirection that has only ever
> lead to war mongering, freedom killing, constitution burning
> and corporate criminal bankruptcy SHOULD be reason enough
> for the duped purveyors of this ignorance to consider crawling
> in a hole and blowing their brains out (assuming they have
> any level of integrity with their vocal support of the death
> penalty, their addiction to murder weapons and their role with
> installing George "mini Hitler" Bush to a second term after his
> insidious, 10 trillion dollar, deficit exploding invasion of Irag
> had been fully exposed as the death machine, torture regime,
> oil theft scam that every intelligent human on the planet knew
> it to be long before the Fox Nazi Network helped terrorize
> the national teabagger turkey rafter into allowing our
> mercenary military commence with the bayonetting of
> brown babies).
>
> [snip]
>
>> I find the connotation of "jack boots" and "brown shirts" as
>> disturbing as gas chambers, bombings and lynchings.
>> All are things I don't wish anyone's children to have any
>> direct knowledge of.
>
> Well, here are the jack booted thugs in action:
>  <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbnEy_U9pYk>
>
> Now imagine that it's YOUR defenseless daughter that
> the rabid gang of brown shirt cowards is pushing to the
> ground and kicking into a concussion.
>
> If you are complicit in supporting known mass murderers
> and war criminals, you are a mass murderer and a war
> criminal.
>
> If you are bearing the standard of affiliation with racist,
> hate mongering, jack booted, brown shirt, fascist puppets
> of the blood sucking corpo-rapist elites, then you are a racist,
> hate mongering, jack booted, brown shirt, fascist puppet
> of the blood sucking corpo-rapist elites.
>
> When those are the roles that you are serving, you should
> stop pretending surprise when you are held accountable
> to your actions.  Stop hiding your agenda behind the phony
> descriptions of Georgia ballot initiatives.  Stop burying
> the truth beneath the delusional fraud and contradiction
> that your espoused intent somehow justifies the real
> world death and destruction and misery and suffering
> that your actions are causing.
>
> In other words, take the trouble to learn who your real
> opponents are before you tie yourself to their strings
> and become their guilty slave.
>
> (abandoning hope that humanity will ever shun the
> fear and greed mongers long enough to find...)
> peace
> aaron
>
> --
> PS:  Albert Einstein defined "stupidity" as "repeating the
> identical actions and expecting different results".
> Seeing all the repub-lie-cons and teabaggers once
> again locking into a zombie goose step with the same
> old tired, redundant, paranoid, self loathing, hate bating,
> "blame the government" party platform lies has convinced
> me that these people are among the stupidest human
> impersonators to have ever walked the planet.  Seeing
> the way that so many normally brilliant people can switch
> off their brains the second they are called to intelligently
> consider the implications and realities of their political
> philosophies astounds me to no end, which made it
> especially nice to find that there at least a few of the
> graybeard people still keeping the memories alive
> out there:
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BJfMPxQuiU>
>
> ---
> PSS:  Just to note, I didn't introduce the "brown shirt"
> term to the recent conversations.  It came up (as a vastly
> more tenuous and unfounded association) when one
> of the talking point automatons was running the standard
> denial of reality program on the long running history
> of atrocities in genocide and war and starvation and
> torture and assassination and terrorism and globally
> outsourced violent exploitation that can be directly
> attributed to the corrupt corpo-rapist cult of capitalism.
>
> --
> PSSS: Ironically, the factual history of the motives and
> causes behind the Boston Tea Party are yet another
> example which exposes the capitalist lies that we've
> been sold. Turns out the original tea party protests were
> not about excessive taxation at all, but about the fact
> that a taxation had been created for the sole purpose
> of undermining the free market to serve the monopolist
> interests of a corporation.
> -- The East India Trading company, the most pervasive
> global cor-pirates of the era, had lobbied (coerced &
> bribed) the British government to impose a tea tax.
> Having the (taxpayer expense) imperialist government
> militias enforce the new laws they bought would
> criminalize the free (and now "black") markets in tea
> at every port, insuring the East India company a total
> monopoly over the tea trade. (Did I mention that the
> militias enforcing the monopoly were maintained at
> taxpayer expense?)  The American colonists weren't
> protesting that they didn't have representation, they
> were protesting that they could never buy the same
> corrupted representation that the mega wealthy
> mega-republicorps exploited.
> -- Real interesting is that this is a nearly direct
> corollary to the Amendment_1 issue. Seems to
> share some aspects of the prohibition laws our
> country has suffered, too.
> -- Even more interesting and appropriate that even
> the most basic Tea Party identity is every bit the
> complete fraud that we should expect of a corporate
> sponsored political puppet movement!
>
>
>
>> --
>> --
>> James P. Kinney III
>> I would rather stumble along in freedom
>> than walk effortlessly in chains.
>
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