[ale] [OT] Upgrade G4 Mini to OS X 10.5?

[arxaaron]

On 2010/11/01, at 20:04 , Richard Bronosky wrote:

> Aaron you are tin foil hatting. There is no evil plot to make you
> upgrade your Mac OS.
> Apple doesn't even use serial numbers with their
> OSes. They don't care.

Wasn't talking about the OSeX updates in that, I was referring
to the failed capacitors in the hardware (mostly in jest).  I took
in about 3 free dead Macs thinking I could repair them, but
replacing a half dozen capacitors on a multi layer wave soldered
main board isn't trivial (or likely to be worth the effort on a $250
salvage).


> Apple wants you upgrade hardware.

Exactly.

> So much so
> that even if you upgrade to the OS that introduced inertial scrolling
> on a multitouch MacBook Pro that predated it... You don't get the
> feature. That is evil.

I'm sure that the multi feature had more to do with the touch pad
hardware than the OS talking to it.  I can actually understand and
forgive that being the case. Hardware feature _additions_ are
more of an enticement to migrate;  premature hardware failures
pretty much compel one to migrate.  :-P

peace
aaron


>
> On 11/1/10, arxaaron <arxaaron at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2010/11/01, at 15:55 , Scott McBrien wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think Leopard works on G4s.
>>
>> Tiger (OSeX 10.4) runs fine on G3, G4 and G5
>> Leopard (OSeX 10.5) is fine on G4 and G5
>> Snow Leopard (OSeX 10.6) == NO PPC
>>
>>> I thought Mac minis started off with G5 processors?
>>
>> TTBOMK, PPC Mac Mini's and Laptops only ever got
>> up to G4 processors.  The lack of G5 laptop chips was
>> a big part of the motivation to migrate to x86 architectures.
>>
>> G5 only appeared in iMac and Power Mac models.
>>
>>> When leopard came out I just bought the OS disk
>>> for it from the apple store and was on my way.
>>
>> Apple discontinued distribution of the Leopard OS 10.5
>> update & install disk some time ago.  Continuing to distribute
>> it would interfere with the usual industry forced migration
>> schemes. Getting a pressed copy is inordinately expensive
>> now (more that the resale value of most PPC Macs) if you
>> can even find one.
>>
>> I find that all my working PPC Macs are still quite useful
>> and that there is very little software that is not compiled to
>> run on PPC if it runs on OSeX 10.5.  The bigger problem is
>> hardware, as I have several PPC Macs in my basement
>> that were killed by the bad capacitor plague.  Almost
>> makes me think that the bad capacitor problem was
>> intentional, but I'm sure that big globalized monopolist
>> corporations have my best interests at heart and would
>> NEVER conspire together to fix LCD monitor prices or
>> intentionally make "defective by design"  products that
>> would fail prematurely and force me to buy replacements
>> long before I should have ever needed to.   ;-)
>>
>> peace
>> aaron
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 1, 2010, at 3:03 PM, Dylan Northrup <ale at doc-x.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You shouldn't need a PPC specific DVD.  The install version of
>>>> Leopard I have worked fine on my G5 tower (as well as my intel
>>>> MBP).  I'd suggest finding someone who has a copy of the DVDs as
>>>> opposed to torrenting, but I'm a little paranoid about foreign
>>>> install media.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Joe Knapka <jknapka at kneuro.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Hmm, OK.  But it no longer appears possible to obtain official
>>>> Leopard
>>>> PPC DVDs from Apple. I'm having trouble finding a usable 10.5 PPC
>>>> installation DVD.  There are many dozens of torrents out there that
>>>> sort of look right, but the one I actually downloaded so far was  
>>>> not
>>>> bootable.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Richard Bronosky <Richard at bronosky.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 10.5 is the last of the PPC compatible OSes. The first Intel only
>>>> OS
>>>>> is 10.6. You have indeed missed something.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/1/10, Joe Knapka <jknapka at kneuro.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My ex-wife has a G4 Mac Mini that refuses to work with her new
>>>> iPod
>>>>>> until it's upgraded to OSX 10.5.  Is it even possible to do this?
>>>>>> Apple doesn't seem to provide 10.5 for G4 machines, unless (as is
>>>>>> likely) I'm missing something obvious.  I also tried torrenting a
>>>>>> "Universal" 10.5 installation DVD, but it wouldn't boot on her
>>>>>> machine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any advice appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- JK
>>
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