[ale] Off topic - And now, Arizona
Jim Kinney
jim.kinney at gmail.com
Sat Jul 10 08:04:57 EDT 2010
I would LOVE_ to see that proposed "Tucker Branch" of the east rail line.
OK. I live in Tucker and the bus ride to the rail is 45 minutes...
I think the last thing we need to be spending more government subsidy money
on is more roads. Add a per slot parking lot tax, raise the gas tax and take
out a lane or two on on all the interstates within 4 miles of downtown. Use
the extra $ to build a WORKING mass transit system that can move people
around at least as fast as they move now in rush hour.
Rubber tires on elevated trains are quite and won't require chopping up
neighbourhoods. The area under the rails become a long series of parks or if
high enough no change under the rails. Who ever's backyard _will_ gripe and
move and the next owner will be happy.
Maybe we need a gubment mandate of no vehicle sold in the US gets less than
50mpg without a bus drivers license and commercial insurance or is only
available for lease.
On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 6:50 AM, Greg Clifton <gccfof5 at gmail.com> wrote:
> No argument there and now that Jim has educated me on what Vogons are, I
> think that is a very appropriate description. I can't imagine such a plan
> would actually ever be executed, especially not with current state & federal
> budgets. Maybe they ought to extend 316 to 400 or I-75, that would probably
> do more to alleviate the daily Spaghetti Junction-316 traffic jams than
> extending 400 and they could route it right through the Governor's mansion
> ;-)
>
> GC
>
> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Larry Johnson <
> larryfeltonjohnson at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> You're probably right. No matter what two nondescript clusters of cul de
>> sacs and strip malls serve as the end points though, the bottom line is
>> still the destruction of some of the best neighborhoods in Atlanta.
>>
>> Larry
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Greg Clifton <gccfof5 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> OK, I wasn't familiar with that plan, but such a route would connect say
>>> McDonough with Cumming/Dawsonville/Dahlonegah rather than P'tree City w/
>>> Woodstock.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Larry Johnson <
>>> larryfeltonjohnson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> No. I'm thinking of the actual proposal Oxendine has on the table to
>>>> connect GA 400 with I-675 by obliterating Morningside, Virginia Highlands,
>>>> Inman Park, and East Atlanta. Oxendine actually took a bit of heat for it
>>>> early in the campaign, but basically stated that he loved East Atlanta, but
>>>> we all had to make sacrifices for the greater good (as in destroying some of
>>>> the best neighborhoods in Metro Atlanta).
>>>>
>>>> Larry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Greg Clifton <gccfof5 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey Larrry,
>>>>>
>>>>> I was thinking that Michael Moore calling someone fat would be much a
>>>>> more apropos comparison.
>>>>> Pardon my ignorance, but what is a Vogon?
>>>>> I live in and grew up Fayetteville (10 miles East of Peachtree City).
>>>>> My father, about 50-52 yrs ago, as a Delta Airlines pilot tried to build the
>>>>> first house in P'tree City but couldn't get a loan from the Atl banks
>>>>> because it was too far out in the country. That's not relevant to the topic,
>>>>> but you comment about destroying East Atl for a Mega Bypass to get from
>>>>> P'tree City to Woodstock makes no sense, both are on the West side of Atl
>>>>> and one can go straight up Hwy 74 to I-85 to I-285 to I-75 to I-575 and be
>>>>> in Woodstock much quicker than any conceivable "eastern passage" as you
>>>>> propose. Are you perhaps thinking of the roadway that DID destroy some of
>>>>> East Atl but Jimmy Carter killed the project when he was Gov. and the road
>>>>> now takes you to his Library and on to E. Ponce?
>>>>>
>>>>> GC
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Larry Johnson <
>>>>> larryfeltonjohnson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Jim Philips <briarpatch.jim at gmail.com
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 07/09/2010 03:50 PM, Lightner, Jeff wrote:
>>>>>>> > Especially the Roberts Supreme Court.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Don't worry about Georgia being passed by Arizona though - at least
>>>>>>> one of the Republican gubernatorial candidates has something in their ad
>>>>>>> about how we should follow Arizona's lead. I forget which one though.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> That would be Nathan Deal. He's doing his best to out-wingnut the
>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>> candidates. I don't think he can catch Oxendine or Handel, though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I live in East Atlanta, and grew up in Grant Park, so Oxendine holds a
>>>>>> special place in my pantheon of wingnuts, since part of his platform
>>>>>> includes destroying the east side of Atlanta to create some sort of
>>>>>> mega-bypass, so that the Vogons can get from Woodstock to Peachtree City
>>>>>> without encountering any inhabited places in between.
>>>>>>
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