[ale] facebook hacked? (Again....)

Tue Dec 21 08:39:58 EST 2010

YOU"RE STILL AROUND, just 'cross the country!!!! Long time no hear :-)

You have very clearly voiced my exact sentiment about social networking sans
one privacy issue: once it hits the web, it is forever there. For me, social
activities benefit by the fog of fading memory. It lessens the sharpness of
a harsh comment and heightens the importance of a good event.

On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 12:56 AM, rhia <rhiannen at atlantacon.org> wrote:

> Long time, no type. We're all the way over in the NW of the good ol' USA
> so most of the Atlanta centric issues are out of our ability to
> physically interact. Credentials to those who don't remember me: Geek,
> tech, early adopter, linux user, etcetera and so on (but that really
> doesn't matter.)
>
> A perspective not delved deeply into yet: privacy, security, and all the
> additional identity theft issues. It is a concern, although I don't go
> further into it below, but it still is a valid concept to at least
> consider.
>
> I made a personal choice to not use MySpace, or FaceBook, or Twitter or
> their ilk for a few reasons. To clarify, the following is My Personal
> Opinion on My Personal Choice. It is NOT to say someone with a different
> opinion is wrong.
>
> 1.) I'm intensely private. Oh, I've done a lot of public stuff, some of,
> maybe even most of which could come about with some time and search
> ability, but I see no need to post daily boring personal details to
> sites that can 'forget' I set it to private, or collect data (sometimes
> in very sneaky ways) that is embarrassingly easy to access, or just in
> general because new upper management moved in or whatever.
>
> 2.) Closely tied to number one: I, personally, just don't see the need
> to tell the world (even the supposedly private world of just my
> "friends") everything that happens on a daily basis. I especially don't
> feel that need if some site standing to gain financially from my usage
> is the one deciding if their idea of private coincides with my idea of
> private - even though they state their stance upfront - which may change
> tomorrow, next month, or 5 minutes after I agree to their terms of
> service.
>
> 3.) As has been shown in various places on-line (easily searched), it
> can be surprisingly easy to make such "private" material "accidentally"
> not so private anymore.
>
> 4.) It is a rough economy and a tough job market. Do I really want a
> potential employer to see what my "friends" might say, even if said
> friends thought they were "just being funny" if it might cost me my job?
> (Not really, no, not to me, just not worth it.)
>
> 5.) If someone is in my past, there is probably a really good reason
> they are in my past and not my present. (I have mentioned that this is
> my personal opinion, right?)
>
> 6.) A long time ago my mother used to ask me "If all your friends jump
> off a bridge, does that mean you will too?" IOW, just because a majority
> of people have adopted it doesn't automatically make it a good thing.
> Expedient and or convenient maybe, but not necessarily "good."
>
> I do have a blog, (well, a sort of blog, that anyone looking to "A-HA!
> me on can easily find) that I use occasionally to post pictures or
> comments to friends and family, then eventually remove the post once I'm
> sure they've seen it. I just don't have the belief that my pictures of
> snow in our back yard or whatever is somehow worthy of being
> immortalized on the internet forever.)
>
> I could go on, but I don't need to. To those who love it, awesome, have
> fun, catch up, enjoy it for all its worth.
> I DO see the merits of on-line social communities. But, please, don't
> automatically assume anyone who has reservations or aversions to jumping
> on the bandwagon is an old fogie, afraid of new tech. Most of us that
> haven't created numerous social media accounts have, like myself,
> numerous reasons why we haven't. For those of us on this particular
> list, I'd lean more towards private reasons that being a wooden headed
> luddite.
>
> Before getting collective underwear in further knots from either the pro
> or con views, perhaps we could all take a few steps back and remember
> that what makes humanity so special is we all have our own opinions, we
> all make our own choices for our own reasons and we are all unique -
> just like everyone else.
>
> rhia
>
>
> On Sat, 2010-12-18 at 19:43 -0500, Richard Bronosky wrote:
> > I don't know if anyone else is seeing the irony in this discussion.
> > Insisting that people send you personal emails, dedicated phone calls,
> > and visits to your home is narcissistic. The reason facebook is so
> > popular is that people can make the events of their lives available to
> > their friends and loved ones even when the event is not significant
> > enough to warrant a phone call or email. I would feel like a
> > narcissist if I emailed my contact list every time my daughter did
> > some thing cute or I had a great new beer. But, with facebook (via
> > twitter in my case) I just put it out there and the interested people
> > can choose to get caught up with me when they please.
> >
> > If you are refusing to use facebook and you have adult children that
> > want you to use it, you are missing out if you don't. They will have
> > dozens of times over the year where they wanted to share something
> > with you but didn't because they couldn't take the time right then to
> > craft the right words to make right how long it's been since they last
> > spoke to you. I know that's not what you intend, but that is the
> > position you are putting them in. The holidays are a great time to get
> > over yourself. You'll have a better 2011 if you do.
> >
> >
> > > On Dec 18, 2010 11:55 AM, "Tom Freeman"
> > > <tfreeman at intel.digichem.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > Ok. I'm the "old fart" (58). I've seen too much in the past 10-15
> > > years of
> > > the next "greatest thing" to be much impressed one way or the other.
> > > And I will stand by my snide remark that I have yet to see material
> > > on facebook that I _really_ need to know about _NOW_. There are one
> > > or two things that
> > > have been worth finding out, but they have generally had a half-life
> > > on order of weeks. Other people have different experiences. If you
> > > need to
> > > push information to me, I have an answering machine on the phone,
> > > and
> > > my friends know that. Otherwise, drop by the house, bang on the
> > > door, and
> > > we can just plain gossip.
> > >
> > > I got a Facebook account to pickup grandchildren pictures which
> > > certain
> > > friends keep wanting to see. Sadly, the parents keep forgetting to
> > > post
> > > the grandchildren pictures. That molasses in January going up hill
> > > is going to make its appearance before I get something I want out of
> > > the
> > > system.
> > >
> > > Just as there are a few worthwhile movies being produced, there are
> > > a
> > > few worthwhile movies dating back to the era of the silents. I
> > > rather
> > > doubt that the percentage of production has changed much either, but
> > > I
> > > have never attempted to find that out for sure. Same concept applies
> > > to music, although I admit to prefering older popular music. My
> > > preference doesn't make it better in any way however.
> > >
> > > FWIW, etc.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, 18 Dec 2010, Jim Philips wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Michael Trausch <m...
> > >
> > >
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