[ale] thinking about switching away from ubuntu

[Adam Allred]

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Damon L. Chesser <damon at damtek.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-04-14 at 04:37 -0500, Justin W Elam wrote:
>> Adam and Michael :
>>
>> In regards to your distribution selection, that you are wanting the
>> greatest and latest programs.
>>
>> I have two recommendations for you.
>>
>> One use Debian Unstable Sid
>> Two use Debian Stable currently Lenny
>
> On this I would agree.  Debian *can* do everything Ubuntu does, it just
> does not do it by default.  However, it has the down side of *you*
> taking the time to set up all the features you want to work the way you
> want.  On the other hand, once you set up Debain Sid, you are done once
> and for all (or at least until a major changes rolls in).
>
> I am starting to find Ubuntu is also bugging me.  However, I also agree
> with others on this thread that every distro bugs me after some period
> of time.
>>
>> Since you both liked Ubuntu but noticed that it had too much 'bloat'
>>
>> visit http://www.debian.org for more information.
>>
>> a good repository host is at University of Illinois at
>> Urbana-Champaign COSMOS page at
>>  http://cosmos.cites.uiuc.edu
>>
>> There you will find repositories for various flavors of fedora,
>> gentoo, rpmfustion, knoppix, and debian among others.
>>
>> Three another option could be puppy, dsl, or openSuse
>> Visit http://www.distrowatch.com/ for more info
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Justin
>>
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Hi all,

Given the range of responses, I think I can now better quantify my discomfort.

I think that ubuntu's current practices are in contention with its
"linux for humans" mantra.

Back in the days of Warty and Breezy, the limitations ubuntu faced
were limitations of the linux community as a whole. Lack of NTFS
support, no high-performance binary ati drivers (free or otherwise),
etc. But, what did work in ubuntu was built and configured to work
well.

Today, the limitations ubuntu seems to be facing are of a different
flavor. They seem to me to be coming from poor decisions, poor
configuration, and poor attention to detail that lead to systems that
are not built and configured to work well. Limitations aren't coming
from a lack of technology to achieve a goal, but a failure to
effectively implement technology.

Did something change? Was ubuntu less bleeding edge in the past? Did
the developers grow brain tumors? Did I just get too picky?


Thanks,

Adam