[ale] code bloat

[Jeff Lightner]

Funny about Oracle's so called Unbreakable Linux - It came out with a
lot of fanfare and when they mentioned using it here (where we do a lot
of Oracle stuff) I said no way.  I'm not giving them the OS in addition
to the App and the DB.  

You have to wonder if part of their reason for buying Sun wasn't because
they do a lot of their first development for Solaris and might someday
try to force commercial clients to only use that platform.

-----Original Message-----
From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of
Richard Bronosky
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 1:03 AM
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!
Subject: Re: [ale] code bloat

Yes, but a Debian net install can be broken.

On 10/11/09, Rev. Johnny Healey <rev.null at gmail.com> wrote:
> 458MB is almost 3x the size of the debian net installation cd.
>
> So, not only is the oracle client bigger than the postgres binary.
> It's bigger than everything you need to get a debian system up and
> running.
>
> -Johnny
>
> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com>
wrote:
>> Why is the zipped Oracle 10g client for 32-bit Linux a 458MB file?
>>
>> I don't want to replicate the entire dataset in the client! I just
>> want to be able to a query and get a subset returned.
>>
>> Argh! stupid code bloat....
>>
>> I can do EVERYTHING in Postgresql that the Oracle dba is doing with
>> less overhead, far better ROI and easier installation (11 rack is a
>> total PITA and Oracle is barely able to make it run on their RedHat
>> spinoff "Unbreakable Linux"). The only things I can't do are generate
>> a pretty picture of the data model easily (well - sort of - a tool I
>> use doesn't grok all the myriad of datatypes available to PostgreSQL
>> so it mislabels a few things) and do automatic partitioning and
>> dimensioning (it can be done with manual scripts to function in an
>> automatic manner - Oracle includes prewritten scripting and calls it
>> an automatic process).
>>
>> All of postgresql rpm's (testers, replictors, jdbc's, procedural
>> languages, clients, dev environments, EVERYTHING!) is less than 30M.
>> Maybe Oracle license fee is based on lines of code...
>>
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