[ale] Xen - further OT

Jeff Lightner jlightner at water.com
Tue Jun 23 15:13:58 EDT 2009


Maybe but imagine if you'd been an American stranded in Russia instead.

Having worked and traveled outside the US has made me appreciate what we have here a lot more.   

One of my prior employers got miffed at me when I put a 5 week limit on a "temporary" install trip to India and made them put it in the documentation that if 5 weeks wasn't sufficient they HAD to fly in a new team.   Sure enough at the end of 4 weeks they "suggested" they might need to keep us longer at which point I reminded them of the condition.  

That condition by the way was insisted upon because an installation team at the employer before hadn't gotten stuck in Kapalua Hawaii for more than 6 months on a "2 week install trip".  Being stuck in Hawaii doesn't sound like such a bad thing but having worked in the Caribbean I can tell you working in paradise and vacationing there are NOT the same.

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From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of Jim Kinney
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 2:30 PM
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!
Subject: Re: [ale] Xen

On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Asher Vilensky<ashervilensky at gmail.com> wrote:
> It's funny to me to read "Borland" and "smart" in the same sentence.  At the
> time, they brought an entire dev team from Russia to Atlanta - only to lay
> everybody off a month or two later.  Saw it with my own two eyes.

That sucks! It's bad enough getting laid off. Really bad getting
relocated then laid off. But relocated to another freaking side of the
globe and THEN laid off....

That sucks big time.

welcome to 'merica....
>
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> On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Jeff Lightner <jlightner at water.com> wrote:
>>
>> If they'd been smart they'd have done what Borland did after they bought
>> dBaseII way back when and already owned Paradox.  They'd just issue updates
>> to both products so they were exactly alike.  Doing it this way just annoys
>> your install base who say to themselves:  "If I've got to migrate why
>> migrate to something these putzes make - might as well do something else."
>> Then again many vendors will create a "migration path" before dumping stuff.
>>
>>
>>
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>> From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of Brian
>> Pitts
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 11:28 AM
>> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!
>> Subject: Re: [ale] Xen
>>
>>
>>
>> On 06/23/2009 07:49 AM, Jeff Lightner wrote:
>>
>> Right but it goes on to say they're folding it into their own Oracle VM
>> and that both were based on Xen.
>>
>>
>>
>> Since I never heard of Virtual Iron before I can't say much about it.  If
>> it was Open Source then they can only quit supporting it themselves without
>> killing it.   However, I wonder if the reason it is being killed isn't
>> because no one ever heard of it and it had an uphill battle against VMWare,
>> Xen and other options.
>>
>> This thread was started by Jim posting old news about Oracle buying
>> Virtual Iron. It turned out that within a month of buying them, Oracle fired
>> almost everyone and discontinued the project. It seems like a rather
>> expensive way to get more customers for your own product.
>>
>> I am pretty curious to see what happens in the Sun xVM v Oracle VM fight.
>>
>> All the best,
>> Brian Pitts
>>
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