[ale] Ale Digest, Vol 12, Issue 45

Fr. Michael A. St. Clair Michael.St.Clair at nsc.com
Thu Jan 15 13:24:59 EST 2009


Does anyone have any information on the ALE NE meetings coming back?




On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 21:49 -0800, ale-request at ale.org wrote:

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> Today's Topics:
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>    1. Centos/Apache (Terry Bailey)
>    2. Re: Centos/Apache (Jim Kinney)
>    3. Re: Ubuntu forums are hosed (Nick Ali)
>    4. linux screen saver (John G. Heim)
>    5. Re: linux screen saver (Geoffrey)
>    6. Re: linux screen saver (Brian Pitts)
>    7. Re: linux screen saver (Michael B. Trausch)
>    8. Re: ssh -R (was Re:  Have I been hacked?) (Ken Ratliff)
>    9. ALE CENTRAL MTG for Thursday, Jan. 15, 2009,      7:30pm (Fedora
>       10 Kicks Ubuntu uButtto) (aaron)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 12:01:00 -0500
> From: Terry Bailey <terry at bitlinx.com>
> Subject: [ale] Centos/Apache
> To: ale at ale.org
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> Hi,
> 
> I will load Centos onto a dual core Xenon with 4 gigs of RAM.  If all
> the modules are loaded when I gen the system, will that slow down apache?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Terry Bailey
> 
> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:05:21 -0500
> From: Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ale] Centos/Apache
> To: ale at ale.org
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> everything running requires resources. To maximize performance,
> minimize the number of running processes.
> 
> If you don't need it, don't start it. Apache modules can be turned on
> and off in the conf file. Modules turned off will not be loaded when
> apache starts. Modules turned on will be loaded even if they are never
> used.
> 
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Terry Bailey <terry at bitlinx.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I will load Centos onto a dual core Xenon with 4 gigs of RAM.  If all
> > the modules are loaded when I gen the system, will that slow down apache?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Terry Bailey
> >
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> 
> --
> --
> James P. Kinney III
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:05:58 -0500
> From: "Nick Ali" <nali at ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: [ale] Ubuntu forums are hosed
> To: ale at ale.org
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> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Jim Lynch
> <ale_nospam at fayettedigital.com> wrote:
> > Anyone know what's up with Ubuntuforums.org?  It's been in various
> > stages of DOWN for about 24 hours.  No news on ubuntu.com.
> 
> If you still want to know what happened:
> http://moxiefoxtrot.com/2009/01/14/recent-ubuntuforums-downtime/
> 
> nick
> 
> --
> 
> http://boredandblogging.com
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:30:56 -0600
> From: "John G. Heim" <jheim at math.wisc.edu>
> Subject: [ale] linux screen saver
> To: <ale at ale.org>
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> I cannot figure out how to get a linux screen saver to start at the gnome
> login prompt.
> 
> We rundebian linux and I've discovered that by default, it turns on a screen
> saver that requires the user to re-enter a password if the console is idle
> long enough. But I need the screen to go blank if nobody logs in for 5 or 10
> minutes. Googling showed me lots of ways to configure a screen saver for a
> user but that' means it would work only after a user logs in.
> 
> I'm sorry I'm kind of ignorant of gnome & gdm. I'm blind and I have only
> used the GUI a few times. I'm trying to learn how to use it with the new-ish
> screen reader for gnome, orca. But I have a long way to go.
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:46:48 -0500
> From: Geoffrey <lists at serioustechnology.com>
> Subject: Re: [ale] linux screen saver
> To: ale at ale.org
> Message-ID: <496E5D48.2020708 at serioustechnology.com>
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> John G. Heim wrote:
> > I cannot figure out how to get a linux screen saver to start at the gnome
> > login prompt.
> >
> > We rundebian linux and I've discovered that by default, it turns on a screen
> > saver that requires the user to re-enter a password if the console is idle
> > long enough. But I need the screen to go blank if nobody logs in for 5 or 10
> > minutes. Googling showed me lots of ways to configure a screen saver for a
> > user but that' means it would work only after a user logs in.
> >
> > I'm sorry I'm kind of ignorant of gnome & gdm. I'm blind and I have only
> > used the GUI a few times. I'm trying to learn how to use it with the new-ish
> > screen reader for gnome, orca. But I have a long way to go.
> 
> So you're trying to have the screensaver running before anyone logs in?
>   I'm not sure I understand the purpose.
> 
> --
> Until later, Geoffrey
> 
> Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
> temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
>   - Benjamin Franklin
> 
> 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:55:48 -0500
> From: Brian Pitts <brian at polibyte.com>
> Subject: Re: [ale] linux screen saver
> To: ale at ale.org
> Message-ID: <1231970148.27925.9.camel at square>
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> On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 15:30 -0600, John G. Heim wrote:
> 
> > We rundebian linux and I've discovered that by default, it turns on a screen
> > saver that requires the user to re-enter a password if the console is idle
> > long enough. But I need the screen to go blank if nobody logs in for 5 or 10
> > minutes.
> 
> Do you really want a screensaver, or do you want the monitor to suspend
> for power-saving purposes?
> 
> -Brian
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:57:45 -0500
> From: "Michael B. Trausch" <mike at trausch.us>
> Subject: Re: [ale] linux screen saver
> To: ale at ale.org
> Message-ID: <20090114165745.0f283376 at zest>
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> 
> On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:30:56 -0600
> "John G. Heim" <jheim at math.wisc.edu> wrote:
> 
> > We rundebian linux and I've discovered that by default, it turns on a
> > screen saver that requires the user to re-enter a password if the
> > console is idle long enough. But I need the screen to go blank if
> > nobody logs in for 5 or 10 minutes. Googling showed me lots of ways
> > to configure a screen saver for a user but that' means it would work
> > only after a user logs in.
> 
> I am not sure how you would implement that at present without some
> programming.  However, I could be wrong:  A *lot* of new functionality
> has come to GNOME-based systems in recent times, and something like
> this may already exist there that I am not aware of and cannot find.
> 
> That said, I think that the best way to go about this would be (if you
> have some programming skill) implementing some additional functionality
> to do just this.  There are a few ways to go about it:
> 
>   * Implement some system-wide program that will automatically be run
>     every time someone starts a GNOME session, watching for inactivity
>     and kicking off the Fast User Switching functionality in GNOME
>     after a set time-out,
>   * Implement some system-wide program that will automatically be run
>     every time someone starts a GNOME session, watching for inactivity,
>     letting the screen saver come on, and then kicking off the Fast
>     User Switching functionality in GNOME, when there is activity after
>     a specified amount of inactivity (this mimics the way Windows XP
>     Professional seems to work by default),
>   * Or implement something with either of the above points, within the
>     gnome-screensaver software itself, and using GConf to store its
>     configuration data so that the system administrator can implement
>     *some* required functionality in a system (e.g., maximum timeout
>     for the screensaver which would be implementing the feature to
>     begin with).
> 
> I don't know how hard any of those would be, but I would imagine not
> terribly hard if you are already a C programmer.  I can't seem to find
> any indication that a similar feature has been requested in GNOME or
> that it has already been implemented, so I am fairly sure that someone
> will have to write it.
> 
> > I'm sorry I'm kind of ignorant of gnome & gdm. I'm blind and I have
> > only used the GUI a few times. I'm trying to learn how to use it with
> > the new-ish screen reader for gnome, orca. But I have a long way to
> > go.
> 
> I can only assume that Orca has improved quite a bit since the last
> time I checked it out.  I was looking into screen-readers some time
> ago, and Orca used to crash quite a lot; the screen reading extensions
> for GNU Emacs are (from what I have been told) quite a lot better and
> I knew one person that used that exclusively (I guess Emacs really is
> an operating system!).  Good luck on Orca.  :)
> 
>         --- Mike
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> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:17:30 -0500
> From: Ken Ratliff <forsaken at targaryen.us>
> Subject: Re: [ale] ssh -R (was Re:  Have I been hacked?)
> To: ale at ale.org
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> 
> On Jan 9, 2009, at 9:40 AM, Chris Kleeschulte wrote:
> >
> > http://kleeschulte.blogspot.com/2007/09/how-to-create-reverse-ssh-tunnel.html
> >
> 
> Thank you, I can find a few uses for this.
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> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:48:58 -0500
> From: aaron <aaron at pd.org>
> Subject: [ale] ALE CENTRAL MTG for Thursday, Jan. 15, 2009,     7:30pm
>         (Fedora 10 Kicks Ubuntu uButtto)
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> :-)
> If we judge by the latest issue of  Linux Format magazine,
> whose last two cover disk distros were Ubuntu 8.10 and
> Fedora 10 respectively, this month's ALE Central meeting
> could get a little rough [re attached jpg].
> :-)
> 
> Here's a reminder about tomorrows ALE cage ma ...
> er... meeting details:
> 
> ===
> Our feature presentation for the
> ALE Central Meeting on Thursday,
> January 15, 2009, 7:30pm, will be
> 
> "Fedora 10: Looking at Features,
> Fixing the Flaws, and Planning the Future"
> 
> presented by David Nalley,
> Regional Fedora Ambassador
> 
> Synopsis:
> ? This talk will be a casual exploration of, and an open
> dialog about, the many new design and package features
> found in Fedora 10, the latest release of the Linux community
> development distribution from which Red Hat Enterprise
> Linux is derived. Supporting the goal of continuing to improve
> Linux tools for the future, any audience questions, comments,
> critiques or observations regarding Fedora Linux will be
> welcome and encouraged.
> 
> Bio:
> ? David Nalley is a Linux Sysadmim, a Fedora Developer
> and the Regional Fedora Ambassador for the South Eastern
> U.S. working out of Greenville, South Carolina. David travels
> frequently to technology events throughout the region to
> promote Fedora Linux distributions specifically and the FLOSS
> philosophy in general. He recently journeyed to Atlanta for
> the Software Freedom Day & Linux Fest 2008 celebrations in
> September, where he graciously agreed to visit with ALE
> again once Fedora 10 was released.
> 
> 
> ============================
> The ALE meeting time frame is 7:30pm to ~9:30pm
> Directions to Emory Law School can be found at:
> < http://mail.ale.org/?page_id=2 >
> ============================
> 
> As always, these details are available at the ALE.org
> web site.  And apologies  for being a little tardy getting
> this posted, but I've been busy on the road the past
> week and a half.
> 
> peace
> Aaron Ruscetta
> ALE Event Coordinator
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