[ale] Home fiber network?

Fri Aug 28 10:39:16 EDT 2009

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You guys are WAAAAY off base.. I have some thickwire and vampire taps.
Cutting edge stuff right there and I'll sell it to you (with adapters!) and
a great price!

--Dennis

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:18 AM, scott mcbrien <smcbrien at gmail.com> wrote:

> Richard,
> I've used the cut, tie, pull method many times in my own home.  Usually I
> leave a pull string in place if I need new runs, but some people wouldn't
> like the way it ends up looking near the network closet.  cut, tie, pull
> does require some better planning on how you lay out your initial runs, and
> also has some problems if you're using it with tight or large bundles of
> cable.  It's hard to pull a cable that's surrounded by 50 other tightly
> packed cables.  I found that having 3 drops in every room in the house, the
> area around the patch panel had a larger bundle, but after that the bundles
> tended to thin out as it branched into different rooms.
>
> -Scott
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Richard Bronosky <Richard at bronosky.com>wrote:
>
>> I agree that I cannot come up with any justification for fiber.
>> However, suggesting that someone can simply repull a cable is full of
>> fail. This should only ever be done for straight runs. I made a
>> vertical drop that goes from my attic through 2 floors to my basement.
>> I have a permanent fish cord double the length of the run terminated
>> at each end. I use this much more often than I expected, as it goes
>> trough the fireplaces on both floors where I later installed flat
>> panel TVs. I have tried similar things in areas with one to three
>> bends and have often ripped cat5e (riser and patch) cable in half
>> trying to pull it.
>>
>> If you really want to future proof, install whole house central vacuum
>> tubing. You can then plug the holes with [basically a sock] and use a
>> shop vac on one opening to pull/suck a cable with a pom-pom connected.
>> You can cover the conduit openings with this awesome plate
>>
>> http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=105&cp_id=10425&cs_id=1042505&p_id=3997&seq=1&format=2
>> Have I mentioned how much I love monoprice.com?
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:41 AM, scott mcbrien<smcbrien at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Fiber isn't worth it (at least not now).  When you're planning your cat6
>> > pulls, just make sure there's extra room in the bundle and some space
>> around
>> > where the pulls go through studs, walls, or floors.  If at some point in
>> the
>> > future, you want to replace a cat6 drop with fiber, just attach the
>> fiber to
>> > the origination of the cat6, go to the termination point and pull up the
>> > cat6 wire, the fiber you've attached will come right along with it.
>> > What are you doing in the house that is too slow over GigE?  If you
>> compare
>> > the cost of the fiber, and all the equipment that goes with it with Cat6
>> +
>> > GigE, I think it's hard to find a justification.  Especially considering
>> > that you're boxen are either also going to have to have fiber network
>> cards
>> > in them or are going to talk over copper anyway.
>> > -Scott
>> >
>> > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Scott Denlinger <
>> scott at scottdenlinger.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I have an old house which I'm remodeling, and I am considering running
>> >> fiber
>> >> instead of cat. 6, since I think fiber won't become as obsolete as
>> quickly
>> >> as
>> >> cat. 6 will. Does this make any sense to consider? I've run cables
>> before,
>> >> and
>> >> could do the termination of copper myself, but would I be out of my
>> league
>> >> trying to run fiber? I would have to bring someone in to terminate
>> >> everything
>> >> and test it, but I'm reasonably confident I could design the network,
>> and
>> >> run
>> >> the fiber myself, so I'm sure I could save on a lot of the labor costs,
>> >> even if
>> >> I need someone to terminate all the connections.
>> >>
>> >> Are there good Internet resources out there for RESIDENTIAL fiber
>> >> networks? A
>> >> lot of what I've seen in my searching so far seems to involve
>> commercial
>> >> installations.
>> >>
>> >> Another factor is location--I'm in Statesboro, and there's at least one
>> >> guy here in town
>> >> who claims to be able to do fiber installations, but I haven't gotten
>> into
>> >> specifics with him. I'm sure there are folks in Savannah who could come
>> >> out and
>> >> do it pretty easily, especially if they didn't have to spend time
>> running
>> >> the
>> >> fiber themselves. I imagine if they're only terminating and hooking up
>> >> onsite
>> >> equipment, it's a 1-day job at most.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for any tips, insights or caveats.
>> >>
>> >> Scott Denlinger
>> >>
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