[ale] Hosting Services

Rett Addy gtrett at gmail.com
Wed Apr 29 09:24:50 EDT 2009


I am a neophyte to setting up websites and hosting but I have a need to set
up an informational website with pdf files and mp3 files.  I have already
purchased some domain names to hold them.

Does anyone have any recommendations for hosting services and tools.  This
will not be a big site since it is informational.

I am also thinking about creating a site that will go nationwide in the
future but I am not sure of what I want to do.  It would be nice to sell
advertisement on the site to subsidize it but I am not sure how to get
started with that.

Any advice on the small informational site would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Rett

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Finding the modem in Dell D630 (Mills John M-NPHW64)
   2. Physical to Xen Server (Brandon Colbert)
   3. Re: Ale Digest, Vol 15, Issue 89 (Paul Cartwright)
   4. Wireshark newbie-Q: Promiscous capture (Mills John M-NPHW64)
   5. Re: Wireshark newbie-Q: Promiscous capture (Robert Coggins)
   6. Re: Physical to Xen Server (Chris Kleeschulte)
   7. Re: Wireshark newbie-Q: Promiscous capture (Patrick Evans)
   8. Re: Wireshark newbie-Q: Promiscous capture (Chris Fowler)
   9. Re: Wireshark newbie-Q: Promiscous capture (John Mills)
  10. Re: Wireshark newbie-Q: Promiscous capture (Kenneth Ratliff)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:04:49 -0400
From: "Mills John M-NPHW64" <Jmills at motorola.com>
Subject: Re: [ale] Finding the modem in Dell D630
To: "Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!" <ale at ale.org>,
	"Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!" <ale at ale.org>
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Chris -

Having fought with 'linmodem', 'lt-modem', etc, I agree. Not only is it
slow, it has a rough time sync-ing up to the incoming carrier. You could
rework the source code quite a bit and never achieve a fast and robust
phase-lock!

I'll dump it once and for all.

'Zoom' and $49.95 looks like a good option.

 - Mills

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From: ale-bounces at ale.org on behalf of Chris Fowler
Sent: Tue 4/28/2009 10:56 AM
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!
Cc: jim.kinney at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [ale] Finding the modem in Dell D630
 
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:47:12 -0400
Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com> wrote:

> think "winmodem".

check out linmodem.  I got my modem working in my Compaq using that
project.  I downloaded the drivers and only get 14.4k.  That is the
highest speed you are allowed on the "free" version of the drivers.  I
think the paid version is $20 and you get up to 56k.

Even then it was just too flaky and the software modem does not like
talking to older devices with hardware modems.  I've abandon it and
have a very nice Multi-Tech USB ZDX.  I've not ran across a device I
can't talk to.  However, brand new this modem lists for $125.  
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:23:17 -0400
From: Brandon Colbert <colbert.brandon at gmail.com>
Subject: [ale] Physical to Xen Server
To: "Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!" <ale at ale.org>
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Hello,

Does anyone know how to convert a physical server to a Xen guest? Where do I
start?
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:10:16 -0400
From: Paul Cartwright <ale at pcartwright.com>
Subject: Re: [ale] Ale Digest, Vol 15, Issue 89
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux! <ale at ale.org>
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On Tue April 28 2009, Robert Reese~ wrote:
> Oops. ?Zarafa. ?;c)
http://zarafa.com/content/prices
150 euro +
30 euro / user

not open source.. if yer gonna LOOK like outlook, and PAY (almost ) as much
as 
Outlook, you might as well BE outlook:)
besides, they don't take $$, only euro.
-- 
Paul Cartwright
Registered Linux user # 367800
Registered Ubuntu User #12459



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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:04:11 -0400
From: "Mills John M-NPHW64" <Jmills at motorola.com>
Subject: [ale] Wireshark newbie-Q: Promiscous capture
To: <ale at ale.org>
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ALErs -

I want to capture all [wired] traffic to or from  certain IPs (or MACs if
preferred) on a Linux host attached to a desktop hub through which all the
traffic of interest is passing.

I set capture into 'promiscous' mode and filter on the stations I want to
see, but only display packets that would normally be read by my wireshark
host: broadcast, etc. I run wireshark from a console in which I have become
'su'.

What must I do to see on host 'A' all the traffic going between hosts 'B'
and 'C'? Are there some switches that must be used when building wireshark,
or other constraints on how it is run?

Thanks for any guidance.

 - Mills
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:10:17 -0400
From: Robert Coggins <ale at cogginsnet.com>
Subject: Re: [ale] Wireshark newbie-Q: Promiscous capture
To: "Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!" <ale at ale.org>
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If you are on a switch you may not be able to capture the packets for
other IPs.  You need a hub.  Unless I am missing something else here...

Robert

Mills John M-NPHW64 wrote:
> ALErs -
> 
> I want to capture all [wired] traffic to or from  certain IPs (or MACs
> if preferred) on a Linux host attached to a desktop hub through which
> all the traffic of interest is passing.
> 
> I set capture into 'promiscous' mode and filter on the stations I want
> to see, but only display packets that would normally be read by my
> wireshark host: broadcast, etc. I run wireshark from a console in which
> I have become 'su'.
> 
> What must I do to see on host 'A' all the traffic going between hosts
> 'B' and 'C'? Are there some switches that must be used when building
> wireshark, or other constraints on how it is run?
> 
> Thanks for any guidance.
> 
>  - Mills
> 
> 
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:44:26 -0400
From: Chris Kleeschulte <chris.kleeschulte at it.libertydistribution.com>
Subject: Re: [ale] Physical to Xen Server
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux! <ale at ale.org>
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Somewhat loaded question:


If you are planning on making this a para-virtualized guest on a DOM:

	this requires that your guest OS (the physical server) run the xen  
kernel modifications and modules, in other words it needs to know it  
is being virtualized, so you would need to consider the following:
		1. does this machine need a custom kernel and custom
modules?
		2. does this machine need access to all the same hardware it
used  
when it was physically running on hardware


If you are planning on running the physical server inside a non para- 
virtualized guest, it is fairly easy (or could be):
	the guest OS need not be aware it is being virtualized
		1. you can LVM snapshot the disk(s) and prepare a Xen DOM
and boot  
LVM snapshot inside the DOM


I realize to newcomers to Xen, this all seems daunting, but there are  
a huge number of options here. You could make the physical machine a  
Xen DOM (physical machine that hosts guest machines) and then just  
snapshot or copy the data for the guest to use (this may be the  
easiest). There are many senarios, so it would depend on what state  
the intended guest is in...what OS, etc.



I would consult the Xen docs and check if your dom hardware can  
support non para virtualized hosts (your processor must have the  
extensions)



Chris Kleeschulte

On Apr 28, 2009, at 3:23 PM, Brandon Colbert wrote
>
> Does anyone know how to convert a physical server to a Xen guest?  
> Where do I start?


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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:52:39 -0600
From: Patrick Evans <pevans at backcountry.com>
Subject: Re: [ale] Wireshark newbie-Q: Promiscous capture
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux! <ale at ale.org>
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Yeah you need to know if you are using a hub or a switch. If you're using a
switch you would need to setup a mirror port on the switch (if it is capable
of that) and attach your linux host to that port.

You might find it simpler to use tcpdump to determine if you are picking up
traffic destined for third party hosts.

Something like:

tcpdump -netti eth0 dst ip_address and not src local_ip

where ip_address == some other host on the local network AND
where local_ip == the ip address of the machine you are using to snoop

-Patrick

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From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of Robert
Coggins
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 4:10 PM
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!
Subject: Re: [ale] Wireshark newbie-Q: Promiscous capture

If you are on a switch you may not be able to capture the packets for
other IPs.  You need a hub.  Unless I am missing something else here...

Robert

Mills John M-NPHW64 wrote:
> ALErs -
>
> I want to capture all [wired] traffic to or from  certain IPs (or MACs
> if preferred) on a Linux host attached to a desktop hub through which
> all the traffic of interest is passing.
>
> I set capture into 'promiscous' mode and filter on the stations I want
> to see, but only display packets that would normally be read by my
> wireshark host: broadcast, etc. I run wireshark from a console in which
> I have become 'su'.
>
> What must I do to see on host 'A' all the traffic going between hosts
> 'B' and 'C'? Are there some switches that must be used when building
> wireshark, or other constraints on how it is run?
>
> Thanks for any guidance.
>
>  - Mills
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:08:25 -0400
From: Chris Fowler <cfowler at outpostsentinel.com>
Subject: Re: [ale] Wireshark newbie-Q: Promiscous capture
To: ale at ale.org
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On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:10:17 -0400
Robert Coggins <ale at cogginsnet.com> wrote:

> If you are on a switch you may not be able to capture the packets for
> other IPs.  You need a hub.  Unless I am missing something else
> here...
> 

Correct.  If you want to do this on a switch then you need a switch
that will mirror ports for the purpose of sniffing.  Cisco is one such
example.


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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:56:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Mills <johnmills at speakeasy.net>
Subject: Re: [ale] Wireshark newbie-Q: Promiscous capture
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux! <ale at ale.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0904282050280.1675 at otter.localdomain.com>
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All -

Thanks for the comments. I actually have two consumer-grade Ethernet 
junctions: one (Fry's no-name) calls itself a switch, the other (Netgear) 
calls itself a hub. I think I tried all the configurations, but maybe not. 
I'll have another run at it.

Screening with 'tcpdump' to see what traffic is visible at the port is an 
excellent idea. Then I would know if the problem is filtering or topology.

I many come back with more questions.

  - Mills

On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, Chris Fowler wrote:

> On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:10:17 -0400
> Robert Coggins <ale at cogginsnet.com> wrote:

>> If you are on a switch you may not be able to capture the packets for
>> other IPs.  You need a hub.  Unless I am missing something else
>> here...


> Correct.  If you want to do this on a switch then you need a switch
> that will mirror ports for the purpose of sniffing.  Cisco is one such
> example.


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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:09:59 -0400
From: Kenneth Ratliff <lists at noctum.net>
Subject: Re: [ale] Wireshark newbie-Q: Promiscous capture
To: John Mills <john.m.mills at alum.mit.edu>,	Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
	- Yes! We run Linux! <ale at ale.org>
Message-ID: <A7A677E2-5B9B-4FC6-BF13-31C3474FFC5B at noctum.net>
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On Apr 28, 2009, at 8:56 PM, John Mills wrote:

> All -
>
> Thanks for the comments. I actually have two consumer-grade Ethernet
> junctions: one (Fry's no-name) calls itself a switch, the other  
> (Netgear)
> calls itself a hub. I think I tried all the configurations, but  
> maybe not.
> I'll have another run at it.

If you purchased the netgear recently, it is very likely a switch.  
What's the model number?

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