[ale] Headless, Consoleless, DVDless, NetInstall? was: Fedora NetInstall via USB Drive

Kenneth Ratliff lists at noctum.net
Fri Apr 17 14:01:21 EDT 2009


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On Apr 17, 2009, at 12:54 PM, Richard Bronosky wrote:

>> Alternatively, check with your host and see if they'd be willing to
>> install an IP KVM if you provided them with one. We have a few
>> customers who have done that, though we don't manage their servers  
>> (we
>> don't allow root on managed servers anyway)

> I like your ideas (which I clipped out), but none of the boxes I want
> to reinstall have LVM and I want them to. Doesn't that stop me from
> doing it your way?

If you could get them to boot it to knoppix and then setup your LVM  
volumes from the commandline, I don't see why not. You'd just have to  
be careful to get your config files right before you rebooted.

>
> P.S. I really would like to leave Peer1, but that's not in my control.
> I know that paying for "management" is crazy, but that is what I've
> inherited. What I am doing with Xen is going to greatly lower the
> barrier to exit. If I had a solution to this "no console" thing I
> could do in a day what takes a week.

Yeah, I saw your other posts. I work for an Atlanta-based hosting  
company, and the only machines we're nazis about are our managed  
servers. We don't give out root to our managed customers. When it  
comes to developing web sites and the content for those sites, they're  
very good at it. When it comes to actually implementing and  
configuring on the servers, most folks know just enough to be  
dangerous (thanks Google). Our managed servers are basically solutions  
for folks who want to put their website up and just want it to work  
without having to sweat the details themselves.

 From the description of your setup, we'd probably classify you as  
unmanaged (actually I know we would, since our managed boxes are  
Debian hehe), which is basically, we install the box to your  
specifications, hand over the root password, and tell you have a nice  
day. After that, the only time we touch the boxes are when  
specifically requested to by the customer.

It sounds to me like you guys are paying for management, but that  
you're really doing all the managing yourself. Whoever signed that  
contract needs a boot in the ass.

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