[ale] Linux Administrator opportunity

[Jeff Lightner]

As for me the last 3 positions I've had I got through headhunters that
found me on job boards (at least 2 of those were via Monster.com - I
think the 3rd said they found me on CareerBuilder).  Even the job I had
before that though I was referred by an ex-coworker I had to go through
a headhunter to get the job.

The one Job board I'd stay away from unless it has changed significantly
since 2001 is AJC jobs.  It had all sorts of bogus postings for
positions at Cox that mysteriously never seemed to get filled.  Given
that Cox owns AJC I decided they were posting these just to make it
APPEAR it was a valid site.

YMMV of course.

-----Original Message-----
From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of
Adrin
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 9:54 PM
To: ale at ale.org
Subject: Re: [ale] Linux Administrator opportunity

After reading all the post I have to agree it so frustrating. 

After being laid off in 2001, at the best company you could get laid of
from,  almost 4 months paid, medical and bonuses.  I was still without a
job and Gwinnett labor dept. was telling me how the IT industry was
growing.  Mind you this was just after the IT and Tech industry bottom
dropped out. 

So I heard an add for with AJC that would allowed me to post my resume
online.  Well, the only call I ever got was from them wanting me to
subscribe to the paper.  After the third call I asked them nicely to
stop calling me. 

I never got the first call from a headhunter.  I didn't have the Cram
Certs. and keywords.  I got my break from a long time friend that was
honored to work with me again. 



On Tue, 2008-09-09 at 13:16 -0400, James Sumners wrote:
> I understand all of the views expressed previous to this one. But this
> is one is in line with my position. If I can't research the company
> beforehand, why would I apply to work there?
> 
> 2008/9/9 Michael B. Trausch <mike at trausch.us>:
> > On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 12:06:20PM -0400, Stephen Benjamin wrote:
> >> Indeed, I find the same issues job hunting.  Staffing agencies can
be
> >> frustrating but you just got to play the game. Unfortunately, many
don't
> >> have the experience or knowledge to identify good hires: they'll
see someone
> >> with a B.S. and Linux+ cert and prefer them over someone who's been
working
> >> with linux for many many years without a degree (e.g. me!).
> >>
> >> But you put your feelers out there for the jobs that you're best
qualified
> >> for, and hope some bite.
> >
> > This is precisely why I don't take the bait that headhunters lay
out.
> > Often, they'll claim that they are qualified to make a decision, but
> > will get totally confused when they give you these stupid
> > questionnaires.  On more than one occasion, I've been selected as a
> > potential person for the job, and then they ask these dumb
questions, I
> > provide answers, and they're like "Well, that's not what's here..."
> > because the answers they have on their little keys are one sentence
or
> > less, when the correct answer is more than that.
> >
> > If they _were_ able to figure it out on their own, and could hold up
a
> > technical conversation on the topic of the job, then I'd be much
more
> > inclined to give them a second thought.
> >
> > To be fair, the blame does not rest *fully* on staffing agencies:
> > Companies are vague in giving job descriptions to the agencies to
> > fulfill.  So, they can't answer your questions, and they won't give
you
> > a contact to a person that *can* answer your questions (and often
won't
> > even give you the name of the place until you agree to interview,
which
> > is a no-no for me; I won't even think about working for a place that
I
> > am not allowed to know about, because that is information that is
> > pertinent to my decision!), and they usually won't go out of their
way
> > to find out for you---they'll just move on to the next person that
is
> > more willing to work with far less information.
> >
> >   --- Mike
> 
> 
> 

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