[ale] random numbers on different operating systems [was: Re: Best kind of ssh key]

[David Tomaschik]

Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
> On Tue 2007-09-25 13:57:53 -0400, Jeff Lightner wrote:
>
>   
>> I'll have to say that I think it isn't really a good point.  While
>> PuTTY does run on Windoze it is not built by M$ and any issues it
>> would have of the nature discussed would be the fault of the folks
>> that wrote it.
>>     
>
> Depending on the selected source of randomness, this might or might
> not be true.  Most modern operating systems provide a standard way to
> get access to high-entropy data (the Linux kernel provides /dev/random
> for hardware-level random numbers, and /dev/urandom for non-blocking
> pseudo-random numbers, for example).  I'm sure that among those OSes
> which provide such an entropy source as a system service, the quality
> of implementation varies.
>
> I have no idea how putty gets its randomness, but if windows offers a
> system-level random number bucket, it would be reasonable for PuTTY to
> generate its random numbers that way.  If there was later discovered
> to be a flaw in the Windows RNG (whatever that is), i'd be hard
> pressed to say it was a fault of the PuTTY implementors, just as i'd
> be hard pressed to fault an openSSH implementation for a failure of
> /dev/{u,}random on a Linux system.
>
> Regards,
>
>         --dkg
>   
That being said, if there was a KNOWN flaw in the windows RNG
implementation, I would fault anyone writing security software that
depends on that.  (I'm not saying there was, but it seems like the PuTTY
people were aware of SOME problem).

David