[ale] OT - Non AT&T landline - Further OT

[Jeff Lightner]

OK I know I said yours would be the last word and had truly intended it
to be but since this story just posted today that mentions the specific
law that is believed to have been violated I figured I'd post it:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070627/pl_nm/usa_surveillance_dc_2

P.S.  Before you say it - I know THIS story doesn't mention AT&T (or
Bellsouth or SBC) but that's only because its focus is really on the
failure to release documents rather than the underlying story which it
mentions only in passing.

-----Original Message-----
From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of Jim
To: ale at ale.org
Popovitch
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 2:09 PM
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
Subject: Re: [ale] OT - Non AT&T landline - Further OT

On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 13:08 -0400, Jeff Lightner wrote:
> We had this argument before so no need to start it again.  IMO AT&T
and
> the NSA did something illegal not to mention ethically questionable.
> You are free to think otherwise.  

You are free to think as you want... but I'll defer to the courts and
let their final judgment stand on it's own.  Far be it from me to play
judge and jury.

> You are now going to post asking which law they broke and not bother
to
> accept my comments about the constitution or laws against U.S. spy
> agencies spying on Americans which were passed in the 70s when the CIA
> was found to be doing this.  Or you'll come up with some other hogwash
> that will be as meaningless.   I'll let your next post be the last
> (albeit false) word on that.

You sure do assume a *lot* about others.  It's not really spying if the
information is willingly provided to the NSA.  Understanding the facts,
and not just the hyperbole, can lead to clearer perception.

> None of that however will go to the original question I asked which is
> "is anyone using any of the other landline phone service providers in
> Bellsouth/AT&T territory and would they recommend it".
>
> I'll assume however that the answer to my question is "no" so I'll do
> some web surfing instead.

Perhaps all that surfing is part of your perception problem... you do
know that you can't believe *everything* you read/see on the Interweb,
right? ;-)

-Jim P.



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