[ale] New Mailing List initiatives for ALE

[Jeff Lightner]

I'm as guilty as anyone of the "cute response" but being a new member
saw that occurring so thought it was the culture of this list.  I can
see arguments on both sides. 

All of this seems to be mainly based on a flame war that occurred 2
years ago (as discussed earlier here and in the Ale NW meeting last
week).   Based on the discussion earlier it appears it was mainly one
individual.  Perhaps moderating (e.g. kicking them off the list for
flames or verifying who they really are before allowing them to post for
the first time) would be more to the point.  It seems that might even be
less work for list administrators.

-----Original Message-----
From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of
To: ale at ale.org
James Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 11:54 AM
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
Subject: Re: [ale] New Mailing List initiatives for ALE

Forums don't work for me at all.
The beauty of listservs is that I have content I've decided to monitor
available when and if I want to look at it.
I can easily tell if there is anything new, I can see from subject lines
(usually) if I want to read a particular item, and when I'm done with it
I can make it go away.

A forum is just one more place to have to remember to go look.

-jt
 


James Taylor
The East Cobb Group, Inc.
678-697-9420
james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com
http://www.eastcobbgroup.com







>>> On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at  9:05 AM, in message
<30A6EF06-B1AC-4C65-A6A6-AACDA520BA90 at yahoo.com>, Jerald Sheets
<jsheets at yahoo.com> wrote: 
> I mean, if this were a desired direction, a "web 2.0" style forums  
> would do this much better I'd think, but the forum idea (IMO, correct

> me if I'm wrong) doesn't fit us very well.
> 
> -- Jms
> 
> 
> On Sep 27, 2006, at 8:33 AM, Geoffrey wrote:
> 
>> Greg Freemyer wrote:
>>> On 9/26/06, Jerald Sheets <jsheets at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> <snip>
>>>> [ale]  (ale at ale.org)
>>>> This is the original mailing list that defined [ale] membership.  
>>>> Discussions
>>>> should be (at least tangentially) relevant to systems  
>>>> administration, or
>>>> sysadmin issues in Atlanta. This list will be moderated for  
>>>> members of [ale]
>>>> to post to and subscribe to. All posting attempts will be  
>>>> moderated for
>>>> relevance to existing threads and content.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The biggest problem I see is the "moderated" aspect.
>>>
>>> I've been on a few moderated lists and the inherent delays to get
>>> something posted take most of the usability out of it for me.
>>>
>>> It gets really annoying when the moderator disappears for a few  
>>> days at a time.
>>
>> We can have multiple moderators.
>>
>>> I don't have any great solutions. :(   ie. In the absense of a
>>> moderator it gets difficult to enforce the rules.
>>>
>>> Maybe someone needs to invent a ostrizism server.  ie. if 10 or more
>>> members of the list vote to blackball someone on the same day, then
>>> that person loses posting priviledges for a week.
>>
>> Seems to me that would be even harder to keep up with, as well,
>> difficult to maintain consistency.
>>
>> --  
>> Until later, Geoffrey
>>
>> Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
>> temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
>>   -  Benjamin Franklin
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