[ale] From DSL to Fiber

[Ryan Fish]

>From what I've been told a couple times the speed of an IFITL connection is
directly related to what's feeding it.  In most cases there's just a T1
being used as the feeder line which, of course, keeps BS from being able to
offer the higher speeds available to users in places wired using copper
only.

 

There is still PPPoE involved; the router holds the login info though so you
won't have to do anything on the boxes connected to it.

 

-Ryan

 

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From: Joshua Kite [mailto:jwkite at gmail.com] 
To: ale at ale.org
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 9:18 AM
To: FishR at bellsouth.net; Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
Subject: Re: [ale] From DSL to Fiber

 

BellSouth has experimented with fiber all the way to the house, but only in
a few areas.  For the most part you're right, though, that he's more likely
to have FITL or IFITL which is fiber to the curb.

There is a difference between FITL and IFITL.  It's been at least a year
since I've dealt with either, but I believe IFITL includes video and also
can provide very high data speeds (far exceeding 1.5mbps).  IIRC, IFITL
makes use of an additional part of the spectrum on the fiber which allows
for the higher speeds, but it's far more expensive and BellSouth decided to
only implement it where it was able to obtain cable TV franchises.  Data
over IFITL is not ADSL, but I cannot remember excactly what technology is
used. 

FITL looks the same from the outside, in that it is still fiber to the curb,
but once inside the pedestal the electronics are different.  In the early
days of FITL and broadband there was a real problem with the ADSL cards
burning up.  That problem has been solved, of course, but I think those
areas still lag in terms of speed, despite having fiber within 500 feet of
the house.  I believe FITL is actually ADSL. 

Then there are those of us who live in the areas where BellSouth actually
experimented with coax.  It's strange to me to look up at my house and see
two coax cables running to it.  I don't think they did much experimenting
with broadband over coax, though. 

Of course, I'm now using Comcast and Vonage now, so none of it matters to me
anymore!

On 8/23/06, Ryan Fish < <mailto:FishR at bellsouth.net>  FishR at bellsouth.net>
wrote:

I doubt he truly has fiber all the way to the house.  More likely there is 
fiber to an underground ped and 5-pair copper coming out of an above ground
ped to the house box.  This is how it is done in my neighborhood anyway.

I ran my own Cat5e from the house box to the closet where my router lives. 
The tech just connected everything at both ends and all was well.

And, yes, you are stuck at 1.5MB when using IFITL and there is no time frame
for an upgrade (I've asked SEVERAL times).  If it wasn't such a pain in the 
butt I'd have switched to cable for 6MB long ago.  I do love the fact there
is no modem to deal with when using IFITL though...

-Ryan


-----Original Message-----
From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of James P.
To: ale at ale.org
Kinney III
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 10:11 PM 
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
Subject: Re: [ale] From DSL to Fiber 

On Wed, 2006-08-23 at 22:04 -0400, runman wrote:
> I am moving and have fiber strung to my new house.
<envy><envy><envy>

>   I am not going to use
> BellSouth as my ISP provider but am either going to stay with Speedfactory

> (instant contract renewal - ick !) or go with someone else (Speakeasy and
> Atlantic Nexus are the front-runners here).  I have been told that BS has
> limited my download speed to 1.5 and that I will need to punch another 
hole
> in my house and run another pair of wires to a RJ45 jack (getting rid of
> PPPOE is the only bright side to this ordeal).
>
> Is this correct ?  While not crazy about this I am less crazy about paying

> Speedfactory's service tech to do it for a small fortune.  While I know
how
> to put an RJ45 jack on Ethernet cable I am not too sure about fiber.

The fiber will terminated with a converter in a box. It will be copper 
inside the house. Run your own wire3 from where you want the jack back
to the box and have the DSL tech connect it to the converter.
>
> And I am guessing my phones are all ok as they are ?
>
> As one can tell, I am totally ignorant of fiber and it's ramifications 
with
> regards to home networks.  However I am certain there are many on this
list
> who are networking guru's with regards to fiber to the home.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Greg
>
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