[ale] Ale Digest, Vol 61, Issue 12
Jeff Belcher
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Mon Sep 26 07:18:19 EDT 2005
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>Today's Topics:
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> 1. Re: Linux on new laptops (Dow_Hurst)
> 2. Re: Linux on new laptops (Christopher Fowler)
> 3. Re: Spam??? (Pete Hardie)
> 4. Re: Spam??? (Scott Castaline)
> 5. Re: Mandriva upgrade problem (Jason Day)
> 6. Re: Mandriva upgrade problem (Mark Wright)
> 7. Pop Quiz: What was the first personal computer? (Robert Heaven)
> 8. Re: Mandriva upgrade problem (Mark Wright)
> 9. Re: Mandriva upgrade problem (Joe Steele)
> 10. Re: Mandriva upgrade problem (Mark Wright)
> 11. Re: Mandriva upgrade problem (Joe Steele)
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> Subject:
> Re: [ale] Linux on new laptops
> From:
> Dow_Hurst <dhurst at mindspring.com>
> Date:
> Fri, 23 Sep 2005 12:10:28 -0400 (EDT)
> To:
> Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
>
> To:
> Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
>
>
>Chris,
>Why don't you post us what your looking for? Do you need low weight? Accelerated graphics? Big screen or long battery life? Many of the requirements you might have would affect what you should look for. I would think that low price might be your deciding factor since the price must stay under $1000. The Compal I have now would come in its default configuration for $1100. I required low weight and Nvidia graphics, everything else was secondary. If you could spend some more money on it, you could really do well. Look at www.dynamism.com for some really long battery life and low weight laptops that are very cutting edge with no guarantees on the Linux side. Have you already bought something?
>Thanks,
>Dow
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Christopher Fowler <cfowler at outpostsentinel.com>
>Sent: Sep 19, 2005 11:25 AM
>To: ale at ale.org
>Subject: [ale] Linux on new laptops
>
>I'm in the market for a new laptop. I'm looking for something that is <
>$1000 and it must run Linux. I would like to know if anyone here can
>recommend a recent model that works well. I thought about buying a Mac
>but I program in Linux and I need to run Linux.
>
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> Subject:
> Re: [ale] Linux on new laptops
> From:
> Christopher Fowler <cfowler at outpostsentinel.com>
> Date:
> Fri, 23 Sep 2005 12:19:11 -0400
> To:
> Dow_Hurst <Dow.Hurst at mindspring.com>, Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
> <ale at ale.org>
>
> To:
> Dow_Hurst <Dow.Hurst at mindspring.com>, Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
> <ale at ale.org>
>
>
>On Fri, 2005-09-23 at 12:10 -0400, Dow_Hurst wrote:
>
>
>>Chris,
>>Why don't you post us what your looking for? Do you need low weight? Accelerated graphics? Big screen or long battery life? Many of the requirements you might have would affect what you should look for. I would think that low price might be your deciding factor since the price must stay under $1000. The Compal I have now would come in its default configuration for $1100. I required low weight and Nvidia graphics, everything else was secondary. If you could spend some more money on it, you could really do well. Look at www.dynamism.com for some really long battery life and low weight laptops that are very cutting edge with no guarantees on the Linux side. Have you already bought something?
>>Thanks,
>>Dow
>>
>>
>
>I'm still looking.
>
>I want cheap. I do not care about weight. I don't travel much. 15"
>screen is okay. I need a resolution bigger than 1024x768. I currently
>have a ze1250 and it has served me well.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> Subject:
> Re: [ale] Spam???
> From:
> Pete Hardie <pete.hardie at gmail.com>
> Date:
> Fri, 23 Sep 2005 12:35:51 -0400
> To:
> Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
>
> To:
> Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
>
>
>On 9/23/05, Scott Castaline <hscast at charter.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Today i received an email that appearred to have come from myself. When
>>I viewed my mailbox file I noticed that the header included an email
>>address of " chaos at mauimail.com"
>>
>>I checked out the web site and it claims to be antispam but it also
>>appears to be a marketing company that is offering email services.
>>
>>Has anyone received anything like this? The text of the message is about
>>M$ Orfice. Anyone interested in seeing it, I'd be happy to send it to you.
>>
>>
>
>I haven't gotten that particular one, but I've received similar
>"self-addressed" spam. It's an easy way to avoid bounce messages
>flooding the spam server - set the sender address as the receipient.
>--
>Better Living Through Bitmaps
>
>
>
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>
> Subject:
> Re: [ale] Spam???
> From:
> Scott Castaline <hscast at charter.net>
> Date:
> Fri, 23 Sep 2005 13:06:07 -0400
> To:
> Pete Hardie <pete.hardie at gmail.com>, Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
> <ale at ale.org>
>
> To:
> Pete Hardie <pete.hardie at gmail.com>, Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
> <ale at ale.org>
>
>
> Pete Hardie wrote:
>
>> On 9/23/05, Scott Castaline <hscast at charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Today i received an email that appearred to have come from myself. When
>>> I viewed my mailbox file I noticed that the header included an email
>>> address of " chaos at mauimail.com"
>>>
>>> I checked out the web site and it claims to be antispam but it also
>>> appears to be a marketing company that is offering email services.
>>>
>>> Has anyone received anything like this? The text of the message is
>>> about
>>> M$ Orfice. Anyone interested in seeing it, I'd be happy to send it
>>> to you.
>>>
>>
>>
>> I haven't gotten that particular one, but I've received similar
>> "self-addressed" spam. It's an easy way to avoid bounce messages
>> flooding the spam server - set the sender address as the receipient.
>> --
>> Better Living Through Bitmaps
>> _______________________________________________
>> Ale mailing list
>> Ale at ale.org
>> http://www.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale
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>>
>>
> Anyway to stop it??
>
> Would filtering for your own address in the from work?
>
>
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>
> Subject:
> Re: [ale] Mandriva upgrade problem
> From:
> Jason Day <jasonday at worldnet.att.net>
> Date:
> Fri, 23 Sep 2005 13:42:43 -0400
> To:
> Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
>
> To:
> Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
>
>
>On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 06:25:45PM -0400, Mark Wright wrote:
>
>
>>I have a home desktop that I am trying to upgrade from MDK 9.2 to 2005
>>(10.2) The upgrade seemed to go fine but when it was time to reboot it
>>hangs at "mounting smb file systems". It is already at runlevel 5 by
>>this time and should be starting the x server but it never gets that
>>far.
>>
>>
>
>I have a very similar problem with a gentoo install once. It turned out
>I had a typo in /etc/fstab.
>
>
>
>>I have tried to use a standalone CD to boot and disable smb.conf or
>>some other quick repair but of the three disks I have, Knoppix, Ubuntu,
>>and mandrake move only Knoppix will boot. This would be great but it
>>comes up in German and I can't make vi work. (I can start it but I
>>can't get insert mode and ESC shift-: won't work)
>>
>>
>
>Not sure why the other rescure disks won't work, but you should be able
>to boot knoppix into english mode by type "knoppix lang=en" at the boot
>prompt. You should also be able to press F2 and F3 at the boot prompt
>for help.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject:
> Re: [ale] Mandriva upgrade problem
> From:
> Mark Wright <mpwright at speedfactory.net>
> Date:
> Sat, 24 Sep 2005 10:14:26 -0400
> To:
> Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
>
> To:
> Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
>
>
>I did remember how to get to single user mode. I looked a fstab and
>found some lines to mount a windows share that is not on my network
>anymore. I commented them out and got rid of the "mounting smb file
>systems" message. Yeah!
>
>Unfortunately I moved to the next problem. It now hangs on "mounting
>other file systems" In fstab there are swap, home and /. Then the
>removable devices all starting with none, except a line for ipod. It
>just starts with its mount point /dev/sdb.
>
>I am going to comment out the ipod just to try something. I'm
>guessing at this point.
>
>
>Mark
>
>
>On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 13:42:43 -0400
>Jason Day <jasonday at worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>>On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 06:25:45PM -0400, Mark Wright wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I have a home desktop that I am trying to upgrade from MDK 9.2 to
>>>2005 (10.2) The upgrade seemed to go fine but when it was time to
>>>reboot it hangs at "mounting smb file systems". It is already at
>>>runlevel 5 by this time and should be starting the x server but it
>>>never gets that far.
>>>
>>>
>>I have a very similar problem with a gentoo install once. It turned
>>out I had a typo in /etc/fstab.
>>
>>
>>
>>>I have tried to use a standalone CD to boot and disable smb.conf or
>>>some other quick repair but of the three disks I have, Knoppix,
>>>Ubuntu, and mandrake move only Knoppix will boot. This would be
>>>great but it comes up in German and I can't make vi work. (I can
>>>start it but I can't get insert mode and ESC shift-: won't work)
>>>
>>>
>>Not sure why the other rescure disks won't work, but you should be
>>able to boot knoppix into english mode by type "knoppix lang=en" at
>>the boot prompt. You should also be able to press F2 and F3 at the
>>boot prompt for help.
>>
>>--
>>Jason Day jasonday at
>>http://jasonday.home.att.net worldnet dot att dot
>>net
>>"Of course I'm paranoid, everyone is trying to kill me."
>> -- Weyoun-6, Star Trek: Deep Space 9
>>_______________________________________________
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>
> Subject:
> [ale] Pop Quiz: What was the first personal computer?
> From:
> Robert Heaven <robertheaven at earthlink.net>
> Date:
> Sat, 24 Sep 2005 11:54:31 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
> To:
> ale at ale.org
>
> To:
> ale at ale.org
>
>
><a href="http://www.blinkenlights.com/pc.shtml">Pop Quiz: What was the first personal computer?
>
>
>
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>
> Subject:
> Re: [ale] Mandriva upgrade problem
> From:
> Mark Wright <mpwright at speedfactory.net>
> Date:
> Sat, 24 Sep 2005 11:59:17 -0400
> To:
> Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
>
> To:
> Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
>
>
>Continuing the stab in the dark approach I have been monkeying with
>fstab and here is what I have ended up with. (Still getting "mounting
>other file systems" message hang.)
>
>/dev/hda1 / est3 defaults 1 1
>/dev/hda6 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
>
>none /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/
>hdc,fs=udf:iso9660,ro--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0
>
>none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount dev=/dev/
>hdd,fs=auto,ro,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0
>
>none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/
>fd0,fs=est2:vfat,--,mask=0,codepage=850,sync,iocharset=iso8859-1
>0 0
>
>none /proc proc defaults 0 0
>none /dev/pts devpts inode=0620 0 0
>/dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0
>
>
>### Thats it, anybody see anything wrong?
>
>On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 10:14:26 -0400
>Mark Wright <mpwright at speedfactory.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>>I did remember how to get to single user mode. I looked a fstab and
>>found some lines to mount a windows share that is not on my network
>>anymore. I commented them out and got rid of the "mounting smb file
>>systems" message. Yeah!
>>
>>Unfortunately I moved to the next problem. It now hangs on "mounting
>>other file systems" In fstab there are swap, home and /. Then the
>>removable devices all starting with none, except a line for ipod. It
>>just starts with its mount point /dev/sdb.
>>
>>I am going to comment out the ipod just to try something. I'm
>>guessing at this point.
>>
>>
>>Mark
>>
>>
>>On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 13:42:43 -0400
>>Jason Day <jasonday at worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 06:25:45PM -0400, Mark Wright wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I have a home desktop that I am trying to upgrade from MDK 9.2 to
>>>>2005 (10.2) The upgrade seemed to go fine but when it was time to
>>>>reboot it hangs at "mounting smb file systems". It is already at
>>>>runlevel 5 by this time and should be starting the x server but it
>>>>never gets that far.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>I have a very similar problem with a gentoo install once. It turned
>>>out I had a typo in /etc/fstab.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I have tried to use a standalone CD to boot and disable smb.conf
>>>>or some other quick repair but of the three disks I have, Knoppix,
>>>>Ubuntu, and mandrake move only Knoppix will boot. This would be
>>>>great but it comes up in German and I can't make vi work. (I can
>>>>start it but I can't get insert mode and ESC shift-: won't work)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Not sure why the other rescure disks won't work, but you should be
>>>able to boot knoppix into english mode by type "knoppix lang=en" at
>>>the boot prompt. You should also be able to press F2 and F3 at the
>>>boot prompt for help.
>>>
>>>--
>>>Jason Day jasonday at
>>>http://jasonday.home.att.net worldnet dot att dot
>>>net
>>>"Of course I'm paranoid, everyone is trying to kill me."
>>> -- Weyoun-6, Star Trek: Deep Space 9
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>Ale mailing list
>>>Ale at ale.org
>>>http://www.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale
>>>
>>>
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>
> Subject:
> Re: [ale] Mandriva upgrade problem
> From:
> Joe Steele <joe at madewell.com>
> Date:
> Sat, 24 Sep 2005 12:16:05 -0400
> To:
> Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
>
> To:
> Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
>
>
>On Sat, 2005-09-24 at 11:59 -0400, Mark Wright wrote:
>
>
>>Continuing the stab in the dark approach I have been monkeying with
>>fstab and here is what I have ended up with. (Still getting "mounting
>>other file systems" message hang.)
>>
>>/dev/hda1 / est3 defaults 1 1
>>
>>
>
>What's an est3 filesystem?
>
>--Joe
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject:
> Re: [ale] Mandriva upgrade problem
> From:
> Mark Wright <mpwright at speedfactory.net>
> Date:
> Sat, 24 Sep 2005 12:45:23 -0400
> To:
> Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
>
> To:
> Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
>
>
>On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 12:16:05 -0400
>Joe Steele <joe at madewell.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>On Sat, 2005-09-24 at 11:59 -0400, Mark Wright wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Continuing the stab in the dark approach I have been monkeying with
>>>fstab and here is what I have ended up with. (Still getting
>>>"mounting other file systems" message hang.)
>>>
>>>/dev/hda1 / est3 defaults 1 1
>>>
>>>
>>What's an est3 filesystem?
>>
>>
>
>a typo
>
>
>
>>--Joe
>>
>>
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>
> Subject:
> Re: [ale] Mandriva upgrade problem
> From:
> Joe Steele <joe at madewell.com>
> Date:
> Sat, 24 Sep 2005 14:32:04 -0400
> To:
> Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
>
> To:
> Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
>
>
>On Sat, 2005-09-24 at 12:45 -0400, Mark Wright wrote:
>
>
>>On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 12:16:05 -0400
>>Joe Steele <joe at madewell.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>On Sat, 2005-09-24 at 11:59 -0400, Mark Wright wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Continuing the stab in the dark approach I have been monkeying with
>>>>fstab and here is what I have ended up with. (Still getting
>>>>"mounting other file systems" message hang.)
>>>>
>>>>/dev/hda1 / est3 defaults 1 1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>What's an est3 filesystem?
>>>
>>>
>>a typo
>>
>>
>>
>
>Obviously :)
>
>The point of the question was whether the typo was in your fstab or was
>only in your e-mail -- i.e., was the typo causing your problem?
>
>Presuming the typo was not causing your problem:
>
>"mounting other file systems" occurs in /etc/rc.d/init.d/netfs. You
>could disable netfs (chkconfig netfs off) to see if it still hangs.
>
>--Joe
>
>
>
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Is that a typo or does the entry for /dev/hda1 say est3 instead of ext?
Just maybe a typo.
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